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Can we retrieve our moral values? : Comments

By Duncan Graham, published 18/2/2016

The Pacific Solution will be ranked in the future alongside the Stolen Generation and trusting churches to care for kids as policies of shame.

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Suse, you have the IQ of a box of rocks, without the saving grace of any sort of education, apparently.

The truth is not a tray of fruit from which you can pick the pieces you find palatable.

There is truth and there is fiction: it's like the difference between science and religion - and you are just a "believer".

You are impervious to truth. You wallow in cheap sentiment and rumour.

One doesn't "choose" which "stories" to believe: the black or the white. There are bases for assessing truth - and listening to the unsubstantiated, heart-tugging stories of people with sad eyes isn't one of them.

Anyone with a few IQ points to rub together would understand that without having to be told. Apparently you've never heard of the benefits which flowed from The Enlightenment. Too late now, I expect.
Posted by calwest, Saturday, 20 February 2016 10:22:34 AM
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I don't think I have ever read so much ignorant tosh in one article, talk about the same old discredited lies being dished out as something new.
1. there are no people smugglers, there have never been any people smugglers because it is a legal right to come and seek asylum and paying for help is not a crime or immoral.
2. the only people we have a legal obligation to are those who seek protection here, we have zero obligation to the people in camps anywhere in the world.
3. everyone has the right to seek asylum without fear of discrimination, punishment or other atrocities being inflicted on them

Surely after 15 years of these same old lies being told and not one person every being charged with anything or denied because they paid to get here the lies would stop.
Posted by MarilynS, Saturday, 20 February 2016 4:57:29 PM
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To Susieonline.

The "Stolen Generation(s)" Lie was invented by a white activist named Peter Read. The accusation was, that successive State and Federal governments of both the Right and the Left, had removed aboriginal children from their loving parents in order to "breed out the black" and thereby commit "genocide" on the aboriginal people. It is a monstrous accusation so far fetched and ridiculous that even Arjay and David G would have had trouble swallowing it. Naturally, Susie, you swallowed it without any trouble.

That thousands of aboriginal and part aboriginal children were removed from unacceptable circumstances, and educated and fed, is no doubt true. The same thing is happening today. Thousands more were forced to learn a job skill to make them self sufficient, in remote areas where workers were needed. Which is a damn site more sensible than the present situation of aboriginal children simply going feral. The removal of at risk aboriginal children was a policy originally thought up by the Communist Party of Australia, as a way of helping aboriginal people achieve equality.

But today's lefties saw it as a way of slagging off at the Australian people that they despise so much. That the CPA originally demanded it's implementation was conveniently forgotten by the Left. They got away with the Lie, because they knew most Australians were ignorant about their own history.

Lied to by the Lefties, thousands of aboriginal people lodged compensation claims about being "stolen" and so the High Court had to decide whether the accusation as true. The High Court ruled that it was not true. Got that? Not true. No genocide. No breeding out the black. The removal of at risk aboriginal children was for good reasons and was a "moral imperative".

The famous Gunnar/Cubillo test case was a prime example. The judge in that case ruled that Cubilllo had never been stolen "but had been convinced by others that he must have been." The evidence in that case showed that the Cubillo was removed when it was discovered that his uncle intended to murderer him and was "digging his grave.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 21 February 2016 5:38:20 PM
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Letter to the Editor, "The Australian" (6/2/10) newspaper in response to a media story about academics hosting a seminar about how white people oppress aboriginal people and cause them to suffer.

Dr Dean Robertson, Tennant Creek Hospital, NT

"Dear Dr Hutchings

I was interested to read of your “Twisting Mirrors” seminar that you are organizing (Strewth, The Australian newspaper, 5/2/10) "The Australian" reports that the exhibition will explore the “mimetic instruments by which current social policy and journalism in Australia construct a “performance” of a degraded indigenous social condition in order to justify ongoing state intervention in indigenous lives.”

Tonight, while I write this, I am the doctor saddled with a nightshift at Tennant Creek Hospital, some 2000 Klms north of your hallowed hall of academia. Beside me is a child with nowhere to go because all of his family members are blind drunk. The parade of the bashed and bleeding has begun. Hanging in the night air is the sickly sweet stench of blood and alcohol, cut by the plaintive wails of beaten humanity. The suffering is enormous, but is expected and even accepted by its victims. Working here is like dodging punches in a teeming public bar while stitching smashed faces. The starving babies hardly get a look in.

There is no need to “construct a performance” of a degraded indigenous social condition. All around me the indigenous social condition is utterly appalling. The more that journalism exposes the indigenous social condition, the better. Australians should be ashamed. I think that ivory tower liberals should stop wasting public money that would be better spent improving housing, health and education in indigenous communities. Quit arguing with fancy language and wake up to the reality. We all bleed the same colour."
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 21 February 2016 5:50:48 PM
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Aboriginal literacy declining

Letter to the Editor The Australian March 16 2010

When I worked at Kununurra about five years ago, it was common to see a group of young men from Wadeye being escorted by an older man in the town centre. The young men needed the old man because the young men could not speak sufficient English to make themselves understood, and could not write well enough to withdraw money from their bank account. The old man, schooled in a mission school, could do both quite well.

The culture of aversion to school at Wadeye is years old. How come we have another generation being schooled in the same dysfunctional manner?

Chris Squelch, Mount Isa, Queensland.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 21 February 2016 5:52:33 PM
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Wow, Lego, powerful posts. Thank you.
Posted by calwest, Monday, 22 February 2016 2:26:04 PM
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