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Can we retrieve our moral values? : Comments

By Duncan Graham, published 18/2/2016

The Pacific Solution will be ranked in the future alongside the Stolen Generation and trusting churches to care for kids as policies of shame.

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What a wet piece of nonsense. Protecting ourselves from illegal arrivals - invaders - has nothing whatsoever with our "moral values"; it certainly highlights the immoralityfoff so-called refugees who think they can intrude on other people's countries and bludge of them for the rest of their lives.

"Only those lacking compassion and the determination to discover alternatives would find the so-called Pacific Solution acceptable."

That's only your opinion, bud. And it's costing us millions to operate, when the illegals could have - should have been - sent packing. But of course, you lefty prats are morally superior to the hoi polloi: in your own fevered minds, that is.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 February 2016 9:39:35 AM
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Well I suppose it would have been moral to allow undocumented folks, some possibly with criminal records or of questionable character, to come here and sometimes drown trying?

And what increases the odds against humane resettlement, is the fact these folk to a virtual generic man, have deliberately destroyed their documentation! Documentation which they needed just to travel to comparatively safe transit countries, which could if kept, verified or disproved their claims?

[After WW11, displaced persons treated their documentation as their most prized possessions, given it almost always identified them as bona fide, genuine refugees!]

Yes there is a regional solution that still destroys the people traffickers criminal business model. And that is the shelved Malaysia agreement, destroyed by the Abbott lead liberals for a perceived political outcome?

The Malaysia agreement achieved multiple objectives, namely the resettlement of genuine refugees, who have waited sometimes for generations for resettlement.

It also empties out the "camps" and replaces that with families in Malaysian apartments, and free to work or go to school or socialize, while they wait for resettlement, even if that is never ever going to be in Australia; the sugar on the table that is the very core of the criminal people trafficker's business model.

I see nothing immoral about economic migrants with patently concocted tales of persecution, being given short shrift.

Given the limited places, allowing them to circumvent our immigration laws, invariably denies a genuine refugee a place!

Now that and people drowning is the only part of this whole fiasco that is immoral!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 18 February 2016 10:31:13 AM
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I didn't get past sentence two. "Only those lacking compassion and the determination to discover alternatives would find the so-called Pacific Solution acceptable."

I have compassion especially for the thousands who drowned on their way here or were ripped apart on the rocks of Christmas Island. The author is simply saying "Oooooh, look over there! Unicorns!"

I have determination to "discover alternatives". We've had a decade or two and what have we come up with that is better? Rudd's plan? Gillard's plan? Hanson-Young's plan? How about getting the nations that spawn these refugees to lift their game. They should copy us.

Compassion is not a word I'll accept from lefties.
Posted by Captain Col, Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:59:03 PM
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"Not all refugees carry radical disruptive agendas many would enrich our society and make fine citizens. Our quota could increase."

Perhaps not, but too many have not just disruptive agendas but criminal or terrorist intent. On that basis, why admit even one of these economic invaders? And the usual sophistry about the "enrichment" of our society by importing large numbers of culturally incompatible, unemployable immigrants doesn't convince me at all, let alone the prospect of an increased quota and greater cost.

Just reverse the argument: how many of the countries from which the invaders have come would accept, feed, clothe and house tens of thousands of Australian "refugees"? Hell, most of them won't even take Muslims from the country next door.

Our wonderful PM has also pointed out that many of those who have attempted terrorist activities in Australia have been second or third generation immigrants. In his view, I guess, that makes everything OK. But the way to stop them, in that case, is to stop the first generation. Simple, really. Unless, of course, Duncan, you can tell us all how to identify the bad eggs out of the tens of thousands of queue jumpers now in Indonesia.

There is nothing "moral" about importing a hostile underclass, then paying billions of dollars of Australian taxpayers to feed, clothe, house and perhaps "educate" them for the rest of their lives and perhaps the lives of their descendants, while at the same time they plot and plan to undermine the host culture. Not moral, just stupid. We don't actually have a great need for female genital mutilation, child brides, rape, the subjugation of women and girls and the rest of their baggage. Oh, and if we have all that money to throw around, let's start with our own homeless.

In any case, we now have, thanks to Angela Merkel, a living example of large scale Islamist invasion. Let's just wait for another year or two to see how the coming collapse of Germany and the EU plays out.
Posted by calwest, Thursday, 18 February 2016 1:13:09 PM
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What's up Duncan?

Are some of your Indonesian mates finding things a bit tough, without the hundreds of million the people smuggling operations put into the economy.

Try finding something legitimate to write about.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 18 February 2016 3:52:53 PM
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Another leftie telling Australians what a bunch of reprobates we are.

European governments and bureaucracies were full of moralising socialists like you, Duncan, and now Europe as a combined entity is on the point of collapse. You would think that with the glaring example of how to destroy your own society with the unrestricted immigration of people from dysfunctional societies, people like you would grow a brain and not make the same mistake.

One definition of "insanity" is, "making the same mistake, over and over again."

Memo to Duncan. Socialism does not work. Multiculturalism leads to internal division and civil war. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 19 February 2016 2:46:50 AM
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