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Asylum seekers, Waleed Aly and the folly of good intentions : Comments

By John Slater, published 12/2/2016

The grand folly of this approach is that while it’s easy to paint offshore processing as callous and cold-hearted, we can’t pretend that this issue exists in a vacuum.

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Response - I applaud Liberal Government not reporting on operational matters. People smugglers/traffickers criminal trade has stopped. If we aren’t helping them – as you say, how is that we see pictures and read of the children on Nauru swimming with the local children. They are permitted to come and go. Some are now working on Nauru and setting up businesses. We have just provided Nauru with a further $26M to build a new hospital, which will offer extensive services, doctors and staff of the same quality as our hospitals. You might like to look up what the original deal on the table was with Gillard and NZ. Pure evil is what ISIS is doing to their own people. You might also like to research the conditions people are living in overseas. Nauru is not so bad after all.

You say – “When something is illegal it tends to become lucrative, hence the criminal gangs. But that doesn't mean everyone involved in people smuggling is bad. Many are, of course, but far from all. And most are not trading people”.

Response – People smuggling/traffickers – are criminals. You also say most are not trading people. What do you think the term “People smuggling/trafficker” means? Smuggling, trafficking people is a criminal offence.

You say – “Refugees are not to blame for government deficits But we have unlimited credit so we should stop worrying about it and concentrate on making Australia more productive. Later on in the economic cycle we will be able to (and should) run a surplus, but right now we have neither the need nor the ability to run one”

Response – I didn’t say refugees “alone” were to blame for government deficit. Re-read my earlier post. However, we don’t have “unlimited” credit either. We can’t afford to continue paying $1B per month (and growing) on interest alone without making a dent in current debt. We have the ability to decrease our debt, however, Mr Turnbull with his innovative ideas team and others continue to spend, spend, spend.
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:36:38 PM
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Would like to see balance sheet in 10 years time if we continue to spend, spend, spend. You might have a different view of the shape of our economy then, including being ten years older.

You say – “If refugees can't already speak english then generally they should be resettled in a country other than Australia. An exception is the small proportion of refugees who are persecuted in Indonesia”.

Response – So you believe we should only take English speaking “ illegal boat people” – and chuck the other’s out. Oh o.k. What a wonderful view you have of those that don’t fit into your grand “plan”. So all those migrants during the 1950’s onwards who came to Australia from Italy, Greece and many other foreign lands who couldn’t speak English upon arrival should also have been chucked out?. Those early migrants from the 1950’s onwards worked hard, learned the language, assimilated and embraced our culture. There are those here now that don’t wish to accept our Western Culture – and want to cause us harm. Should we chuck them out also?

You say – “Do you have a reference for that Senate Committee figure?”

Response – Google search Senate Committee Reports. I watched it live and took notes.

You say – “The fact remains that most refugees have no opportunity to get into "the queue"”.

Response - That’s because those illegal 50,000 “queue jumpers” got in first – and that’s a fact!
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:43:59 PM
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