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NSW Labor draws fire over junket trips to Israel : Comments

By George Browning, published 9/2/2016

AIJAC is a well-resourced right-wing lobby group that in 2003 led the charge against the Sydney Peace Foundation for daring to award a peace prize to Palestinian activist.

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I concur with the article and contend that AIJAC is indeed a self-fixated, malignantly corrupting unit functioning against the interests of most Australians.
Posted by paul walter, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 3:45:10 AM
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I want to know the names of every single pollie that went on a free trip, and the ones who are defending them. You do realise no matter what they say they've flushed democracy down the toilet, and they think you're all to dumb to notice that they are openly admitting it.

Thank you Jews for subverting my countries politicians and buying out our countries democracy.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 5:03:11 AM
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Thank you to Bishop Browning for such a accurate description of what really happens in Israel and the OPT. If you dont want to believe the good Bishop read the words of Jewish woman Susan Nathan "The Other Side of Israel" or enlightened Jewish man born in Israel to Zionist royalty Miko Peled in his book "The General's Son". Why would people like Susan and Miko speak out and suffer the consequences if it were not true? Miko's niece died in a suicide bombing for heaven's sake. There are others of course Pappe for one and all those brave young men and women from "Breaking the Silence" and similar groups who refuse to take part in the occupation. As for Beattie and the like, it is all about trade not Human Rights. Pretty disgusting I reckon.
Posted by Fahey, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 6:57:41 AM
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George,

A Palestinian peace activist: unless you mean someone who is prepared to recognise the right of Israel to exist, and for Israelis not to be pushed into the sea - that does sound like an oxymoron. Do you mean Hanan Ashrawi, adviser to Mahmoud Abbas, now in his eleventh year of a four-year term as President of the PA ?

Paul,

As for your observation: "Voltaire said "to learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise. No prizes for guessing which rogue state in south-west Asia that applies to."

Do you mean Syria ? Iran ? Saudi Arabia ? Gaza ? Egypt ? the UAE ? My understanding is that none of these rogue states has a single Jewish member of parliament (or even a parliament in some cases), while Israel has Arab members of parliament, both Christian and Muslim.

Israel allows Christian churches and Muslim mosques to be built and for people to worship there. I don't think a single Muslim country allows synagogues to be built (except maybe Tunisia?)

In Israel, Christian and Muslim newspapers and other media are fully legal. I don't think that Jewish or Hebrew-language media are permitted in any Muslim country.

In Israel, I understand there are Christian, Druze and Muslim schools, there are Arabic-language schools, and Muslim and Christian students are fully able to enrol at universities, without having to pay any extra tax, like a jizra. I don't think any Muslim country can make that claim (again, except Tunisia?).

Is that what you are getting at when you speak of 'rogue states' ?

Shalom,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 8:26:27 AM
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Hey Loudmouth
Is your allegiance to this country first or to Israel first?
A real Australian who wanted to embrace Australian culture wouldn't end their comments with Shalom.
I don't buy into the whole dual citizen Australian Jew type thing.
Your either Australian, or if your loyalty and allegiance lies elsewhere you're a foreigner.
At this point, I think your allegiance is to Israel first, so any comment you make will be biased and invalid, and since your a foreigner it doesn't matter what you say anyway, whether you reside here or not.

Nothing personal, just the way I see it.
You can't have loyalty and allegiance to somewhere else first and then still try to call yourself one of us.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 9:45:45 AM
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Armchair,

I'm terribly sorry: Salaam then. Is that permitted ? But not 'shalom' ? [Expletives deleted].

Australian, of course, and forever. Are you suggesting that no word from any language can be used except English ? Not even 'paix', 'pace', 'eireni', 'paz', 'mir' - or 'shalom' ?

Fascinating: So, if I suggest that Israelis not be driven into the sea, therefore " .... I think your allegiance is to Israel first, so any comment you make will be biased and invalid, and since your a foreigner it doesn't matter what you say anyway, whether you reside here or not."

I would be proud to have some Jewish ancestry, Couchpotato, like my Hungarian step-grandfather. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to trace any. Jews have done so much for the world, out of all proportion with their numbers, in every field. Muslims - not so much. But I don't make judgments about what you press your lips against.

On the other hand, I do believe that people shouldn't be exterminated, or pushed into the sea - or of course, back into the desert.

To recognise Palestine currently, means to recognise the boundaries that it claims for itself - unless, of course, one stipulates that that is not the case - so to 'recognise' Palestine currently means to recognise their right to push five million Israelis into the sea, as they proclaim they intend to do if they had half a chance.

Is that your position ?

Anyway, shalom, peace be upon you.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 10:11:01 AM
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