Kuranda Seyit believe me I'll be your lightest critic here, but to write a piece like this and not mention why there might be a upsurge in discrimination of Muslims is only fueling the fire.

While i can quite honestly say I think the majority of Muslims are good people. The fact is sects of Islam can be very oppressive and those same sects are committing act's of terror across the world. there are representatives of these sects in Australia.And don't try to spin the yarn that it's our fault. In fighting among Muslim sects has being going on for as long as Islam was made up in the Saudi desert.

I like David. Here's what a true outspoken leader looks like! a man who calls a spade a spade and will not remain silent even for the most powerful!

I just hope the detractors, and there will be many, just don't try to equate justifiable and powerful passion with mindless anger!

Now if we could just get the same level of honesty and sense of inherent social justice inside our political parties as par for the course, courage of conviction, situation normal!

I don't believe we ever need victimize all muslims for the excesses of a few radicals.

However, I would want those same radicals exposed by their own community, sumarily disowned, then expunged from the wider community to somewhere else!

And if I had my druthers, just parachute them in from a stealth bomber into ISIS H.Q. It's your cannon fodder, we just don't want or need it! Fetch!

We all of us need to find this extreme stuff totally unacceptable to the point of taking an active affirmative zero tolerance stance against it!
Even if it means shopping a brother or sister! As difficult as that might be?

I mean one can't be half pregnant or partly against mindless murderous violence!

The most difficult thing I did as a young man, was to shop my best friend for heroin use.

With the result he was watched day and night until his dealer lead the authorities right back to Mr big himself.

I had to disappear for a time and break off all connections with some very dear friends, for their own safety

I ran into my friend years later, where he took my hand in both of his and blessed me for my intervention and the courage it took, given my life could have been forfeit, and assured me I was his saviour and the best truest friend he ever had, given he got his life back and a good one at that!

The only thing to fear by doing the right thing, is fear itself!
Rhrosty.

The disgraceful Morrison is a complaint, not a cure.

This joker complains about 'Islamaphobia', a non-word invented by Muslims as part of their 'victim' game, then disgorges: "racist groups like Reclaim Australia".

"if we complain we are called whingers; if we stay silent we are called sympathisers; if we condemn the terrorists.." . Oh yeah. And what percentage of Muslims in Australia have ever been heard to condemn terrorists!

"religious discrimination in Australia" ? He must be referring to the discrimination by Muslims against all religions not Islam. Islam hates all other religions; thinks the ONLY true religion, and intends to Islamify all of us. This character doesn't know his Koran.

"Every time a Muslim tries to defend his or her faith, critics like Andrew Bolt cran..all out that Muslims are once again playing the "victim"." And Andrew Bolt is right. Muslims play the victim card all the time. It is part of their system, like lying.

"The Muslim community has had difficulties dealing with the rise in Islamaphobic attacks".
Cite instances of these attacks. Are they anthing like Islamist terrorism, or Islamist murd of innocent people?

"Hey you bigots stop your hate, stop your attempts to ruin this great country". That's code
for bigotry no longer has a home in Australia. Stop".

The hate didn't exist until Muslims arrived, mostly illegally, with their bigotry. Evey time Muslims like this open their mouth they put their foot in it.

As an Australian Muslims, perhaps Mr. Seyit can tell us why non-Muslims should accept a religion that teaches hate and violence. Maybe he can tell us why he thinks that Mohammed, a man that attacked his neighbours dozens and dozens of times, foe over 10 years, and who committed all kinds of atrocities, is considered a great moral example by him and all Muslims.

Note that any unkind word, any criticism, no matter how valid, is considered "islamophobia". The fact is that Muslims are unable to reflect on the hate in the Quran, the evil deeds of their dear prophet, and the evil they do everywhere they dominate. To Muslims, none of this matters, they are right (the "best of people" in the Quran) and we, non-Muslims (those "lower than animals"" as stated in the Quran) are always wrong.

For over 10 years I have been telling the sad truth about this vile ideology at OLO -- long before Isis, BokoHaram, and so many of the evils we see done by Muslims today -- and my only error was to underestimate the evil that this ideology brings to society. The fact is that evil, death and destruction follow Muslims everywhere they go. Remember, according to allah, Muslims are put on earth "to kill and be killed" (Quran 9:111

A better Question would be, what's the cure for Infidelophobia. A good start would be to pack them all up & send them back to from whence they came.

are the ignorant left still asking how this can happen everytime there is a terrorist attack. see a 72 year old pensioner being raped by an 'assylum seeker'in Germany. Kuranda with his blinkers on show why this nation is stuffed. What on earth is 'Director of the Forum on Australia's Islamic Relations (FAIR)'.. Is this more Government money to brainwash Australians that Islam is a religion of peace?

Morrison reduced the effectiveness of our defence force by about 40%. In some instances he reduced it to near zero.

One navy engineer recently resigned after 12 years, due to the feminisation of the service. He had 40% girls assigned as stokers, [mechanics] to his ship, & could barely operate the ship. He could not do it safely.

These girls were not permitted to lift, [too heavy for them] many of the things it was necessary for them to lift to be able to do their job. They would have to go & get an able sea-MAN to do the job.

For example, during some minor overhaul procedures, he told 2 of the stokers doing the job to take a part of an engine off to a workshop for some machining. Unfortunately the stokers were girls, & they were not allowed to lift the part. Using legal for them & available methods, it took them 3 days to get it off the ship, & into a ute. Fortunately no enemy was shooting at them at the time.

When it became impossible for him to safely carry out his duties he resigned.

Morrison should be shot, not admired, & honoured.

The joke may be on Mr Seyit. He should realise that MUSLIMS have the right to be MLGBTQIAs *

For those who haven't caught up with the Diversity Council's platform MLGBTQIAs means:

MUSLIMS who are one or some of the following:
Lesbians
Gays
Bisexuals
Transgenders
Intersexes
Queers (those questioning their gender identity or sexual orientation) and
Allies (or asexuals).

see http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lgbtiqa

Now do you want Diversity Council influence Mr Seyit?

Well judging by the posts on this forum, it's time for a good ol' fashioned Krazy Klown Klub rally to mock these foreigners back to where they came from.

But because they have different skin colour, they might have been speaking English from birth but not be able to understand English jokes. It's amazing how many people don't get English jokes.

So every member to the Krazy Klown Klub should unite in solidarity to make sure there is well-lit lower-case 't' on the front lawn of anybody who is bit darker toned then them. Lower-case t stands for 'time to get a sense of humour, naggers'.

And if that doesn't work then all the members of Krazy Klown Klub should dress up as scary ghosts so they can scare off all the wicked foreigners.

Neverwas you really are a sad case, calling on someone to be shot is pretty low, and the strawman you used to justify it was just silly.

TL: It's amazing how many people don't get English jokes.

Yes, There are a lot of Dumb people around these days & most of them well educated too.

Imagine if they watched the "Mavis Bramston Show, Laugh-in, the Benny Hill Show or Graham Kennedy." They would be wondering, what tha' hell's going on, Eh. Wasn't Saturday Night Live with Daryl Sommer a big shock to them. Go Plucka!

TL: all the members of Krazy Klown Klub should dress up as scary ghosts so they can scare off all the wicked foreigners.

No, easier that that. All the Women in the neighbour hood have to strip off naked & march around the Streets. The Men have to dress in Stubby, Blue Singlet & Thongs. Sit in an Easy Chair out front of their House with an Esky & a six pack of Beer to cheer the women on.

In fairness to all those "moderate" Muslims we read about, but seldom meet, we should probably agree that none of them has anything to do with female genital mutilation; nor with wills that leave everything only to male offspring; who ensure that their daughters have access to as high a level of education as they can successfully reach; who publicly repudiate terrorism (and mean it); who denounce Muslims who sexually assault women, or worse, gang rape them. Oh, and who are sickened by the fact that Mohammed married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine.

No, of course, no moderate Muslim would condone any such behaviour. Which makes it a little strange that we still read of such incidents in the media on a regular basis.

Toni Lavers, on the other hand, apparently, believes that anybody who objects to such behaviour is, de facto, a follower of the Ku Klux Klan. What a warped set of values.

David Morrison is a flake. He was a careerist military bureaucrat on a high salary and has now been given an award for doing no more than his job. He's now trying to make a second career out of repeating trendoid crap. The next year of his life will be all about David Morrison.

If he's such a promoter of women's interests, perhaps he could start up a campaign against FGM. What chance?

In a TV appearance, Sheikh Adel AlKilbani, former Imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, is asked to comment about some of his statements about Daesh. Explaining how it is a result of Islamic revivalism, he adds that Daesh follows the same Salafist approach that is adopted in Saudi Arabia, and that there are only some differences regarding how to punish those who contravene the Shari'a.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWORE6OBfhc

Middle Eastern communities such as Christians and Yazidis are currently facing extinction due to Islamic fanatics. Given how majority Islamic societies tend to treat non-Islamic minorities, is it really surprising that some people are fearful of Muslims and Muslim immigration?

I think the late Samuel P. Huntington hit the nail on the head: "Islam's borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power."

"...claims that women are oppressed" Except those women that are stoned to death for adultery or murdered because they have 'dishonoured' their families etc etc.

What a complete load of nonsense this article is, majority Muslim societies are one of the world's most intolerant and oppressive cultures. There's no reason to believe that Muslims won't tried to reproduce that culture in the West. If Muslims were treated like religious minorities in Islamic societies they would have something to whine about, however in this liberal democracy there's relatively not much for them to complain about.

Tony Lavis,

"But because they have different skin colour, they might have been speaking English from birth but not be able to understand English jokes. It's amazing how many people don't get English jokes."

Irrelevant and ad hominem. It's very easy and intellectually lazy to characterise opposition to islam as racism, Muslims aren't members of "race", they're followers of an ideology, a religion. Learn something about the history of Islam and the nature of contemporary Muslim societies.

The rise of Islamophobia is partly due to the increasing realisation of the threat this oppressive and toxic ideology poses to our freedoms.

Hasbeen could we have a reference for the Navy female stoker story? I am interested in highlighting stories like that.

The rise of Islamophobia is due to the surge of aggressive immigrants. Let's face it guys, this is a serious threat as many muslims are becoming more and more aggressive and show less and less resprect for our culture and religion. This is the only issue here.

Oh, here we go, Islam is not the problem, Australians are the problem.

Throughout military history, there have been military commanders who were more adept at their own self aggrandisement through conforming to whatever ideology that the rulers considered sacrosanct, than to any prowess on the battle field. We seem to be creating a PC armed forces with transvestite officers and a Muslim woman parading around in a naval Captains outfit who's sole purpose is to advise military commanders on Muslim matters. Next there will be Buddhist, Ananda Marg, Hindu, and Satanists doijng the same thing. As a matter of fact, because there is an avowed "Satanist" seaman in the Royal Navy, there has to be shrine to Satan on every damned ship he serves on.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

The fact hat we have a Muslim woman as an officer advising the brass on Muslim matters is really funny, since there are twice as many "Australian" Muslims fighting for ISIS than there are in the entire Australian Armed Forces. And our Muslim captain supports our present Grand Mufti, who not only refused to condemn the shooting of that police employee in Parramatta as terrorism, but whom the media claims is the best friend of a terrorist imam in Egypt.

We deserve to lose the next war.

The only good that is coming of this is that people are getting fed up of PC correctness, which is why a person like Trump is being considered by the US population as the next President. If the PC crown hate him, then he must be alright.

Trump is the only western leader who is going to do anything about Muslim immigration into a western country. With the attacks on Paris clearly directed towards the left wing PC crowd themselves, it is becoming ever more clearer to even the most stupid PC advocate that the importation of Muslims into western society was a huge mistake. The Muslims have been nothing but trouble, and they are becoming a threat not only to the peaceful societies that they immigrated to, but to the whole world as well.

Which religious/political movement condones and encourages beating of errant wives, lying to non-members and exhorts its followers to conquer the world for its sake?

If you manage to find out then perhaps you might also discourage its presence in our society as it seems to be somewhat dangerous.
One can imagine that its presence might lead to armed sieges, murder in the streets, attacks on the police, bomb plots etc.

If you notice any of these things then there might be a problem for our society.

A bigger problem for our society are the Ad Hominem
attacks on social media.
These are a logical fallacy that usually
comes from the conservative right. They do
not look up the facts in a situation but instead
attack the person rather than the arguments.
Causing division.

All your fault Foxy.

You Hominem (or is that Feminem?) you.

Foxy: These are a logical fallacy that usually comes from the conservative right. They do not look up the facts in a situation but instead attack the person rather than the arguments. Causing division.

No , when we do give you the facts, which we do all the time, you refuse to accept them, or make some excuse as to why the presented facts are wrong.

I'm simply pointing out to people that they
should not criticise the flaws and mistakes
in others when they can't even see their own.

cont'd ...

Attacking the person and not the argument
is rarely productive. One merely ends up
going round in circles.

Foxy: they should not criticise the flaws and mistakes in others when they can't even see their own.

Anybody here Raped a lady or maybe lopped a head or two off lately. No. I must be blind.

Foxy: Attacking the person and not the argument is rarely productive. One merely ends up going round in circles.

If we criticize a person you & your cohorts are quick to point out it's the Argument. When we criticize the Argument you point out that it was a lone individual. Any going around in circles is pushed from the loony left so as not to take responsibility for these Ar.. people.

As Petra suggests, you & your cohorts have a dilemma. Don't you? We don't.

Wherever in the world, there is conflict, right in the middle
Of it are the Muslims.

Toni Lavis,
You take offence at the Klu Klux Klan,running around in long robes
Attacking people with dark skins. You would probably run to
The law to get them off the streets.

You should understand then, why Australians are wary of groups
Walking around freely in our society, wearing the robes of people
Who have vowed to kill the infidel, which mostly means people
With white skin. We too would like them to stop wearing those robes around
We find them as threatening as you would find the white robes of the Klu Klux
Clan. And yet you call it islamaphobia.

Maybe I should call your hatred of the Klu Klux Clan, Clanaphobia.

I don't particularly like Donald Trump, but he is going to become the next President of the USA because most people find the attitudes of people like Foxy and Susieonline completely unfathomable.

Islam is a religion which seeks to keep women in complete subjugation of men,using rape as a means to do it. Muslim men believe that women are minors, and the property of males. They believe that men have "uncontrollable lusts" which it is the responsibility of women to keep in check. This must be achieved by women conforming to the highest possible moral code invented for them by Muslim men. Women who violate this code deserve to be raped, and if they are raped, it is the woman's fault and not the man's.

You don't need to be a Mensa from the local Audubon Society to figure out that this is a way of men keeping women completely under control. As such, feminists should be screaming their disgust at this religion from the rooftops. But they don't.

They have been conditioned to hate racism for so long that they just can't focus on the obvious. To attack the Muslim faith is to attack Muslims, and attacking Muslims is racism. So like any other ideologue who refuses to acknowledge that self evident reality is not conforming to their holy orthodoxy, they are beginning to look ridiculous. The sexual attacks on western women in western countries is going to get worse and worse the more Muslims are allowed to immigrate to the west. This fact is already apparent and a portent of things to come.

The importation of Muslims into western society is detrimental to the safety of western women. That is a fact. The only western politician who has had the guts to say the obvious is Donald Trump. That is why Trump will be elected President of the USA.

Poor feminists. Either they acknowledge racism will protect them, or they can continue to create a society where women in western countries can increasingly live in fear

Perhaps not, LEGO - it could come down to a contest between Rubio and a Democrat as yet unknown (but neither Clinton nor Sanders) - perhaps Bloomberg will switch sides.

Hi Toni,

I get a laugh sometimes out of those 'Tu quoque' ['You too'] arguments: to follow your logic, why are you picking on the KKK, when the Hittites did so much worse in Egypt in 1300 BC ?

And, to bring it all more up to date, just look at what the Vikings did all over Europe ! Or the Japanese atrocities in China, in Nanking and many, many other places !

So the KKK is comparatively blameless, and by extension, to take your point, so is ISIS.

Hmmmm ...... where has that got us ?

Joe