yep all the left wing polls showed that in Slovenia people wanted to pervert the meaning of marriage. When it came to the vote, well that was another matter. No reports from the gaybc or from other media outlets for that matter. And that was in late 2015!

I find that I am unable to support changing the law to allow same-gender marriage because the government has failed to learn from the harmful past adoption practices for which they have apologised. The well-being of children should always be paramount. I will not support same-gender marriage until the government first of all passes legislation to ensure that every Australian child has a truthful birth certificate. A birth certificate should represent the factors surrounding one's birth. Clearly it is not physically possible for a child to have two female parents or two male parents. Those people can be the child's legal guardians, but every child deserves to have a birth certificate which represents the truth about their birth.

I agree that it is almost 'inevitable' that the majority of non-Christian Australian electors will vote for same-sex marriage - it's almost a 'no brainer'.

However federal politicians should be lobbied by anyone with concerns about same-sex marriage if they personally will commit and fight for in their Party bureaucracy [i.e. not just meekly follow the Party line] that the plebiscite should and MUST ALSO ask 2. "Do you specifically agree that any Christian or other religion clergy/pastor/Muslim iman/Buddhist/Scientologist leader/monk/guru, etc CANNOT be forced to marry two people of the same sex in or out of their church/temple, mosque, etc place of worship if they do not wish to regardless of homosexuals/transvestites/whatever insisting that they must as per existing anti-discrimination law, UN human rights, etc etc. The Christian church and other religious leaders need to wake up, get real, fight fire with fire and mobilize using their numbers to get Individual voters to lobby their federal member to ensure that they are protected from having same sex marriage foisted on them . . . however I am not holding my breath.

Re Citizens Initiated action:

I would like to add that I agree with this condition. It is required as a matter of respect for the views of those who, like Dr. Jensen, object to same-sex marriage on religious or moral grounds, or simply as a matter of conscience, whatever the reasons. I am not aware if any major reform groups are opposed to this protection, however, and would be astonished if it was not a central part of the legislation for a plebiscite.
Max Atkinson

If anyone pinched anything it's the wooly woofs using the word gay that was stolen from noddy or pinochio i can't remember which.
The word marriage is tied up with social welfare that is the importance of that word.

Bring on the plebiscite.And take pollies at their word they will honor the expressed will of the people, whatever that is.

And even if same sex marriage should be the wish of the majority, there will still be some trying by non democratic means to have it reversed.

Ditto real tax reform or almost anything else that involves accepting change or loss of unwarranted control!

As for the moral authority of the "church"! Parhaps it's time to outlaw pedophila, instead of covering it up then acting the pious outrage when same sex marriage between consenting adults is proposed!
Rhrosty.