Yes, I think that you are making a very valid and interesting point there *CherFul* A point that is worthy of its own thread as much could be said.

Health and in particularly mental health is something that is best subjected to a process of ongoing review i.m.o.

And I would add that one of the Golden Rules of mental health is that you can't always rely on what your own brain is telling you.

Of course, the rational and critical faculties can be overwhelmed, but if still intact, can be used to reflect and scrutinise ourselves (as well as others) and is crucially important if one wishes to develop personal insight as well as a degree of empathy with the position of others.

Even if it is only a case of:

" ... Keep your Friends close and your Enemies closer. ... "

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Critical thinking needs to be taught, and from a much earlier age in my view, to make the able more able, shall I say.

It is in detail in one regard characterised by what lawyers are taught at Uni and teachers are not.

;-)

Hi Cherful,

Maybe my memory is faulty, but I seem to recall that, although Italians were interned in Australia during the war, there wasn't a single case of sabotage, terrorism, etc. Nor, of course, from amongst the thousands of Jewish aliens interned either. Nor amongst the handful of local Japanese interned. I'm not so sure about the Germans, although there may not have been any cases of sabotage, etc., by Germans during the First World War, even though they were treated pretty shamefully then.

Similarly, in the US, where tens of thousands of Japanese were interned and lost their homes and farms for good - it seems that there was not a single case of sabotage. Somebody could put me right on that.

Since there are no Muslims interned in Australia, there is even less reason to expect any acts of sabotage, terrorism, bombings, murders, etc.

i.e., unprovoked acts like the murder of Carson Chang, or the couple in the Lindt Café, or the attempted murders of police officers.

And, of course, there was the terrorist attack near Broken Hill during the First World War. All best forgotten :)

Joe

We need retain a focus on where we agree, rather than where we differ.

Extremists ideas need be publicly debated and challenged.

Relations of extremists frequently sort support when recognized their own difficulty to challenge such thinking.

Far to often their requests for assistance without success, so community needs such support being easier to obtain.

BTW am aware Police try provide such support, but why ?

Education is where such thinking can be identified and challenged earlier.

Education however often concentrates ("tick boxes") on suspending or expelling "difficult" ones as "problems", leaving them to be identified then resolved elsewhere.

Such provides "difficult" minds illusions of justification, reinforcing their faulty pathways.

Previously difficult time and cost, while now much easier to arrange so "difficult" minds receive specialist counseling at low cost, using internet video conferencing removes need physically be in same place, so much easier to provide specialist assistance for scattered "difficult" minds.

Doing so enables redirection of "difficult" thinking, when simpler, before serious consequences occur and political knee-jerks flow about keeping them in cells, preventing their return...

Is delays to address foreseeable problems which fails the cost effective tests.

Need is to challenge earlier such thinking, not wait until such ideas entrenched so reject, avoid, hide from attempts to discuss.

Must challenge ideas where challenged to thinking normal, where ideas challenged need respond and withstand scrutiny.

When ideas withstand scrutiny, yet make uncomfortable, they need be moved to areas for wider public debate, to resolve - like here :-)

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