Foxy,
If they are rarely productive then why bother responding to them?

Dear Phanto,

I suppose I am naïve enough to think that
perhaps I can make you look in other directions.

Hello *Foxy* I am so sorry to hear that you've busted yourself up.

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I don't think that it is being naïve at all visa vi your last comment. At the very least, you've given the other person/people the "opportunity" to think (even if but momentarily) about what you've written, regardless of whether or not you've also gained their whole or partial acceptance.

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In my opinion *Foxy* the crimes of certain individuals within the church (if it can even be called that any longer) are so great that under no circumstances whatsoever ought they be given another opportunity.

And as they refuse to purge themselves then they need to be coerced with extreme prejudice as required.

Can you imagine these vile and foul little individuals standing over traumatised and abused victims hissing and sneering and threatening in an attempt to illicit silence.

They deserve to be made to suffer.

We had one of them in hear at one time, under a handle something like BJMP. A group of us chased him out after his attempts to stifle conversation.

Foxy:
What is wrong with the directions I have been looking in? All you have said is that they seem to be meant to provoke anger? What kind of baseless statement is that?

If people do not agree then they are free to ignore what I say or show what is wrong with it. It is a meaningless statement to say my opinions seem to be meant to provoke anger. Anger is a response to injustice so what injustice have I been guilty of simply by expressing my opinions? Don't I have a right to express an opinion?

My opinions might make people feel uncomfortable but if you come onto a forum where people are seeking the truth then you have to be prepared to hear things which make you feel uncomfortable.

I am not here to ensure everyone has a nice time but to contribute to the debate about how to deal with the issues and if I think that dramatising your own responses to events or mis-interpreting them is unhelpful in dealing with the issue then I have every right to say so.

There is no injustice is expressing opinions.

Dear DreamOn,

Thank You for your kind words.

There's no question that the Church has not
handled the matter of child abuse within its
ranks well. Many victims and their families
are still suffering today. However as I said
earlier - it will be interesting to see what
happens when Cardinal Pell is forced to answer
questions from the Royal Commission - and how it
faces future challenges.

Yes, poor *Foxy* I imagine that it is terribly painful and know that these days that the hospitals are extremely concerned to ensure that you do not get hooked on analgaesics to the extent that they expect people to put up with an uncomfortable amount of pain at times.

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It is not a question of the church handling the situation badly, but rather than they knowingly and deliberately conspired to hide, cover up, harbour, aid and albeit extremely dangerous pedophile criminals.

Pell probably owes his current position to his betrayal of the Australian people and if he knows that he has already purgered himself, the likelihood that he is going to return here voluntarily to go to prison is extremely remote I reckon.

It is a shame that they didn't take the passports of all concerned in advance.

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And of course, it begs the question does it not, why would they do such a thing?