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Mythology is killing the solutions to domestic violence : Comments

By Jasmin Newman, published 4/11/2015

Giving a man whose trauma has not been treated 'anger management' is like putting a band-aid on a septic wound and saying 'all better!'

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Thanks; very interesting, particularly the bit about 'irreconcilable breach of trust forcing them to create controllable outcomes'.

I don't know the research in this area, but I have been musing lately on how many of our social problems stem from individuals' lack of self-control. Aspects of modern society are pre-disposing us to consider our own interests all the time, and the neglect community and group interests, causing people to ignore the necessity for self-control.

But if perpetrators have a need to create a controllable situation, an apparent lack of self-control may be more of a reflex survival mechanism, and less like lack of self-discipline.
Posted by Philip Howell, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 10:08:59 AM
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I am almost speechless.
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Firstly I thought it would be one of those articles claiming that Men's Rights groups were creating Myths, but on reading the article to find that it is more accurate about other myths that continually block solutions to resolving DV.

Erin Pizzey first wrote about this in her book Prone to Violence. Then she wrote a discussion paper on working with violent women.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-sacks/researcher-says-womens-in_b_222746.html?ir=Australia

<Dr. Capaldi notes that in a study of women who were in a battered women's shelter, "67% of the women reported severe violence toward their partner in the past year." Others in the domestic violence field, including Erin Pizzey, founder of the first battered women's shelter in England in the early 1970s, have had similar findings.>

Sadly I believe that some groups have a vested interested in continually perpetrating these myths.
Posted by Wolly B, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 1:30:52 PM
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It was Ullrich Ecker of the School of Psychology, University of Western Australia who spoke about the persistence of misinformation. He said "Information that is initially accepted as valid but is later found to be incorrect can have a persistent influence on people’s memory and reasoning".

We have seen much of this in the domestic violence "industry".

One example that springs to mind is the claim that two women die each week as a result of domestic violence. That was first stated way back at the start of the year and has been repeated ever since by Rosie Batty (it's on her website), by ABC Radio and TV (Leigh Sales has reported that inaccuracy on the 7.30 Report), by numerous commentators and dozens of politicians all the way to the top, including Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

But it's simply not true. The Australian Institute of Criminology figures reveal that, over a ten year period, an average of 48 women per year are killed by an intimate partner. And even if you ignore the statistics, you only need consider that this is week 45 and there are nowhere near ninety women who have been killed by an intimate partner, or even by a family member, or even by a stranger. This is so far off the mark to be ludicrous.

Journalist Miranda Devine wrote the following;

“Campaigns such as Destroy the Joint’s Counting Women project insist on making domestic violence a gender issue. It claims 76 women are victims this year, with the implication these are all “intimate partner” homicides, perpetrated by males.

In fact, only about half of the homicides cited could be classified as having a male partner or ex-partner identified as the killer.

Some of the 76 victims were killed by women, by sisters, daughters, a female neighbour or, in one case, a female ex-lover of the victim’s husband, as well as by brothers, fathers, and sons, strangers, acquaintances and persons unknown. Domestic violence is serious enough without exaggerating”.

But the misinformation persists . . .
Posted by DVAMA, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 2:25:36 PM
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Philip Howell, the research in this area is almost non existent. "but I have been musing lately on how many of our social problems stem from individuals' lack of self-control. Aspects of modern society are pre-disposing us to consider our own interests all the time, and the neglect community and group interests, causing people to ignore the necessity for self-control.

But if perpetrators have a need to create a controllable situation, an apparent lack of self-control may be more of a reflex survival mechanism, and less like lack of self-discipline"

it is both, antisocial, antifamily & anticommunity ideas have been promoted for half a century now, so everybody has less self control, is more easily offended. Mental health rates are higher, as well.

Wolly B, are you familiar with Patterson's law of social work? "the number of social workers in a community always grows to match the social problems they create".

DVAMA, "repeat the big lie, until it becomes the truth" Lenin the antisocialist.

the really sad part is this article had to be written by a woman. if a man had been the author he would not have been believed despite the facts on offer.

the other sad part is this woman is allowed to work in this field. men are not allowed to work with women in this field because the women allegedly feel unsafe dealing with any male, yet male victims are routinely forced to deal with female counselors & social workers.

At my local Men's Shed feminist social workers invade our space whenever they like & lecture us about entering the neighbourhood centre, double standards extraordinaire.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 10:41:38 PM
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This is just another social worker writing an article to get more money for his department.

Most people would regard the idea of men being the victims of domestic violence with mirth.

The best way to prevent domestic violence against women from rising in Australia, is to stop importing Muslims into Australia, something that this author saw fit not to mention. The Muslim majority Sydney suburb of Auburn is the domestic violence capitol of Australia. Hardly surprising, when it is remembered that wife beating is officially sanctioned in the Koran.

The other main offenders for domestic violence are aboriginal men. But you won't hear this author say that either. Minorities are above reproach in the world of the social worker, Don't mention the war.

We can't do much about the existence of aboriginals in Australia, but we sure as hell can stop importing Muslims into this country to stop things getting worse.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 5 November 2015 3:41:24 AM
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LEGO, did you know that only 20% of DV involves married hetero couples. 80% is de-facto couples. GLBT marriage would shift the worst DV stats from de-facto over to married. Giving the SJW social workers another reason to claim the need for progress by ending marriage & the family all together.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Thursday, 5 November 2015 4:26:41 AM
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