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The fall of Tony Abbott : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 15/9/2015

In Turnbull, spit and polish will be employed to cover what essentially will be policies similar to Abbott.

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That Turnbull was magnanimous in the hour of Abbott's pathetic, richly deserved, failure is a testament to Turnbull's natural integrity as a man.

Rumours that Abbott is to be appointed Ambassador to the Holy See (Vatican) to seek absolution and a whipping, have yet to be confirmed.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 11:06:23 AM
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Subs need to be built here, not Japan where they are promised to. Turnbull will be his own man not a shadow of Abbott. That is really stretching the excuses.

Abbott is in no hurry to congratulate or even tell his ex people of the circumstances at hand is he.

How long would you expect secret deals being done that we don’t need to know about to continue.

An informal vote is a vote for a person that is an outcast, and should be supervised [a breath of fresh air really]

I think Shorten and Turnbull will work quite well as members that have interests of Australia at heart. What will Abbott’s next move be , maybe he will resign from parliament to bring on an election. I doubt if working in unison will be on. The atmosphere would be too thick to penetrate.

Runner is again having scriptures in riddles. A man of character would explain Turnbull rather than Abbott, surely. We need to be thankful of a shift in circumstances as we were in very dangerous territory
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 1:04:07 PM
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It will make no difference. The rightards hate turnbull. Even more so now he has assassinated their bully boy. They will undermine him and leak like sieves.

After the filth and viciousness dealt out to Julia Gillard for knifing Rudd this just shows the lieberals are mega hypocrites.
They are no better than Labor. They are exactly the same.
All their yap about "people should decide", treachery, disloyalty et al was just more lies and gutter politics wasnt it.
They are total fools after all they said to then go and do exactly the same themselves.

Turnbull and his supporters have blood all over them and it is obvious they are not to be trusted. If this is what they do to their chosen idiot what will they do next? Julie bishop is the most scheming, disloyal politician there has ever been. After her knifing of four leaders as deputy how stupid is turnbull to have her at his back? If you cant govern your own party how can you govern the country.

I predict turnbulls first lie is that he will go full term. Election before xmas.
They just cant help themselves. The lieing liars of the lieberal party.
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 1:39:54 PM
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I dunno PETE, I reckon you should stick with your little submarines I think !
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 2:12:28 PM
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Turnbull is the best man for the lib; party whether the libs; believe that or not. Labor know who is best for the lib; party.

Abbott attacks on the ABC did not work, that sort of bullying only goes to make the perpetrator look like a sook. Abbott had a habit of creating sensational goof ups, so what else do you expect.

I am very happy to see the right decision for change take place, we were going nowhere and in double quick time. A lot of repairs around the world now needs to take place, to regain some respect in world affairs. Turnbull should never been dislodged in the first place.

First year PM 2 years in. Hockey will be a loser as well, as he was in tune with Abbott’s untruths. No one can be disappointed at this latest leadership spill. Abbott had deceived everybody, with a fraudulent election. There seems to be persons in our society that seem to think AU would be better placed as a third world country. That is precisely where we were headed.

Better times ahead, hopefully Turnbull will have the wisdom to govern for all Australians and not just the elite.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 3:15:09 PM
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mikk, Abbott was not knifed in the back like Rudd, he was given six months to right the ship, and failed then, he was advised that a challenge was imimant and he did the honorable thing and called the ballot. How anyone can see that as being the same as what happened to Rudd is trueky bizarre.

Abbott in my view, as a supporter in the last election, was a disapointment and many voters, myself included were caught between a rock and a hard place, tolerate Abbott, or risk letting labor back in. In fact, I was pretty much in favor of allowing labor to Finnish the job they started, that being finding where true bottom lies, because history shows they are masters at that.

There were several issues I thought cost Abbott dearly, firstly, the knighthood of prince Philip. Then his lack of action in the chopper gate affair and even if his hands were tied, he could have at least distanced himself and urged all of his party to show restraint in their spending, especially given his treasurers call for belt tightening and for all to do the heavy lifting.

Personally I woukd have preferred Morris as leader because he's a doer and doesn't run away from the tough calls. He is a man with balls.

But, at the end of the day Abbott was a dud and needed to move on. I also think he should quit altogether.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 3:35:49 PM
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Rechub Morrison is the very reason why Abbott got the boot. He and Abbott are the same kind. They have a likenesses to Hitler. Public opinion will bring you down every time. Backbenchers like to know their job is being looked after.

Abbott’s open govt; It was totally closed even to his own party.
Treat the people like they do not need to know, is just foolhardy.
But in all situations like Abbott he had his loyal followers that belong in another time and place.

Austerity has a fallacy of working to save money, people close their wallets, to counter the austerity measures, so you gain nothing, and business suffers.

For any type of rationalism you need to talk to the people that it will affect. Abbott’s approach was to bully people.

This term of govt; was mismanaged from day one, and it took far to long to dislodge the self styled supremo
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 4:09:03 PM
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rechtub, nicely summed up. I'm less than convinced by Turnbull but hope he can deliver on the change in approach he claims.

Abbott has made much of not being like Labor, he has the power to make that so by ensuring he and as far as he has a say his supporters don't act like Rudd and his supporters.

Much has been said of voters electing Abbott as PM, our system does not give that opportunity. The election of Rudd in 07 was perhaps somewhat presidential in the way it was run and in peoples expectations. I don't think there is any credible basis for suggesting that the last election had the same flair. Labor was tossed out and an Abbott lead coalition was the only other game in town. I didn't detect any widespread signs of fervour for Abbott, rather a determination to get rid of Labor and perhaps at best for most the hope that Abbott might be able to step up to the mark.

We don't elect a PM, the party room does and the closest we get is when it's clear to a party that their best chance of winning government is with a particular leader (or without a particular leader).

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 8:09:23 PM
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Abbott just kept putting his foot in it as far as the voters were concerned, eg Bishop hanging in there.. Howard was very good at allowing someone else to float an idea, then endorsing it or dismissing it, depending on public reaction. Abbot initiated policies without enough thought and consultation with colleagues.

His great achievement was stopping the boats and that is how he will be remembered. Little else that affected history, unless the idea of a plebiscite can catch on and be used for other issues. I hope that it does.
Posted by Outrider, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 10:53:11 PM
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We live in a competitive world and so long as CEO's can get dumped, why not party leaders?

There is little doubt, even to liberal voters like myself, that Abbott turned out to be a dud. But one thing the coalition has that labor does not have, is depth and experience.

While Turnbul is a self made multi milliomaire, the likes of Shoreton is little more than a union thug, unwilling to except that the good times are gone and we are faced with flexibility or no jobs.

Hopefully he will wake up before it's too late for more than just our car industries.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 6:47:00 PM
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Just for Rectub This is why we had to destroy your leader.

The truth has lost it’s way, this govt; has been a miserable failure. We are moving from one disaster to another, the last effort was an attempt at marshal law in Melbourne. How pathetic can this govt; get.

Very few people are supporting Abbott, they are ashamed to say anything about politics. The experiment has failed. Abbot said he would do anything except sell his backside to get into power, well at the last election he did just that. Lies, promises, one million jobs, and everything positive, and that is what he went to the election on.

The people voted for a Coalition govt; and what did we get. We got a Conservative govt; and a budget from hell, 100 % attack on the voters, Abbotts standing suffered an unrepearabel hit. Our country was headed for a catastrophe of mega proportions stated by our treasurer.
We are now in election mode and again being promised the worlds riches, Tax cuts when wages are all-but static, Ladies can go back to work and keep welfare payments. The rot is again setting in like a cancer.
Under the direction of [ Abbott ] this govt; which is more like a one man govt; we have denigrated and become stagnated, Business and consumer alike do not trust Abbott, investment has dwindled to an all-time low, while 110 billion has been added to our debt in 2 years a record breaking amount, without any directed at job creation. This govt; has created it’s own recession, I believe to demonstrate an agenda, we are not allowed to know about.

Only hard core believers can now support the hard right Conservative govt;
Australia is in need of an election to clear the air and reset our governmental strategy to again make this nation a great place to live and work, with confidence.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 17 September 2015 9:13:19 AM
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