You seem conflicted. You call me your friend (I haven't a clue how you'd arrive at that). You call me "young friend" then you call me "old geologists".

You have nothing constructivew to offer. You haven't shown any significant flawes in the points 6 to 10 I made. Instead, you have reverted to the Climate Cultists standard approach of denial of the relevant facts and trolling:

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Dear Peter,

Just like 'mate' the term 'friend' has numerous colloquial uses. I would hope I am not required to spell out which one I'm using at this time.

Speaking of 'conflicted' you sir raised the topic of honesty. You seemed to have little compunction in throwing the term dishonest around with gay abandon, yet when I, quite respectfully I thought, asked if you had any commercial interests in mining or energy companies you appear to have avoided the question entirely. What conclusion do you think would be fair for the wider audience to draw at this point of proceedings?

ARE YOU A CRYPTO, DON?

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http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/12/a-review-of-norman-finkelsteins-the-holocaust-industry/

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Gillard dismisses Communist link claims
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GetUp exposed: George Soros’ tentacles reach into Australia
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http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=3350

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/bill-shorten-getup-staying-mum-on-awu-cash/story-fn59noo3-1227403009264?sv=a7b6497d0231f50e2c58a8ea2fab6f7c

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http://www.whitenewsnow.com/irish-news-white-ireland/49654-austerity-immigration-destroying-ireland-print.html

http://fitzinformer.blogspot.com.au/2010/07/crypto-jewish-world-of-cbcs-kevin.html

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http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34049
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Freemason plan of infiltration of the CC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_Vendita

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by
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a.k.a.
Father Joaquin Sáenz y Arriaga, S.J.
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Th. D. (Doctor Theologiæ - Doctor of Theology)
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"yet when I, quite respectfully I thought, asked if you had any commercial interests in mining or energy companies you appear to have avoided the question entirely. What conclusion do you think would be fair for the wider audience to draw at this point of proceedings?"

I think a reasonable person would see that you are not addressing the subject of the points 6 to 9. They'd recognise that you are trollimg and avoiding the relevant points. Your question asking for my personal details instead of dealing with the substance of the issues is ad hominem fallacy and one of the 10 signs of intellectual dishonesty. My personal circumstances are none of your business and not relevant to the points I raised. However, if you like to provide your personal details, circumastances, affiliations, and interests, I'll happily answer the specific question you asked.

"An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.

The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made)."

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

Dear Peter,

So no disclosure then. Understood.

BTW I wasn't referring to personal details but to business details and I am happy to state quite categorically that germane to this thread I have no commercial interests in energy or mining companies. See it was that simple.

In your second post on this thread you attacked with the words;

“I am surprised such comments are allowed on a web site run by the Australian Institute of Progress, Climate Institute and other socialist organisations dedicated to blocking real progress.”

I'm wondering where your attack fitted within the fallacy framework? Remember your definition; “An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.” Your claim was OLO is run by a “socialist organisation(s) dedicated to blocking real progress”. It had no basis in fact or even reality. Perhaps it lies within another category altogether.

As to whether you and Plimer having interests in mining or energy companies constitutes an 'irrelevant fact' really should be decided by others but I warrant the majority would deem shares in such has having a not insignificant bearing on the veracity of your argument. It is for this very reason we demand politicians divest themselves of control over commercial interests when they enter parliament.

Rusty Reflux, having no respectable basis for his support of climate fraud, stoops to demanding the commercial interests of those who oppose fraud.Apparently anyone profiting if the fraud is defeated, is disqualified from asserting the truth, under Reflux rules.
Support for climate fraud stems only from ignorance, or from dishonesty.
Rusty cannot plead ignorance. He has been invited, often, to refer us to any science which shows any measurable effect of human emissions on climate. He cannot do so, because, as he well knows, there is no such science.
He might have noticed that when a main fraud promoter, the IPCC announced some years back that global warming was human caused, its computer models predicted that a “hot spot” in the troposphere would be identified, which would be the “signature” for human caused global warming.
The IPCC computer models, as they routinely are, were wrong again, and no “hot spot” was found. No hot spot, no “signature, and no apology from the lying IPCC, which then announced that it was 95% certain that global warming was human caused. It had no science to support this ridiculous assertion.
Reflux’s only basis to support the fraud is his dishonesty.
As for his addressing posters as “friend”, it is a way of insulting those who reject the fraud, designating them a friend of a dishonest person , who blatantly supports a proven fraud.

The VW car company is a significant victim of the climate fraud, and no doubt if they act to oppose the fraud, Reflux wiil assert that they are disqualified from opposing the fraud, because of their commercial interests.