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Lessons for history from an Australian prime minister : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 14/9/2015

This is a speculative essay. It asks why, in a modern democracy, Australia should elect a Prime Minister who is widely and internationally criticised as overly militaristic and not that caring of the welfare of its people.

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A great day dawns Foxy, SteeleRedux and Suse

That Turnbull was magnanimous in the hour of Abbott's pathetic, richly deserved, failure is a testament to Turnbull's natural integrity as a man.

Abbott, with his use of force and warlike ways, was depraved.
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Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 11:42:55 AM
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I agree with the general consensus that KRudd and Juliar were the worst PMs the country has ever seen. Tony Abbott achieved more in one year than those two clowns did in 6.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 12:58:32 PM
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No. That is wrong.

The amount of bills that Julia Gillard was able to
pass during her time in office despite having a
minority government and other problems to deal
with puts Mr Abbott to shame.

Nicholas Stuart of the Brisbane Times points out
that - Mr Abbott's problem
of 3 word slogans were never going to be enough.
The problem was always going to be in the policy
detail and working out what should come next.

The country's verging on recession and there was no
one to inspire us that the future will be better.
"Trust Me" - uninformed belief is simple dogma
and simply insisting you are correct was no longer
enough. You actually need to convince voters
that you have a plan as well as the capacity to
implement it.

The lack of this led to the monotonous ghastly polls
spelling the death knell of Mr Abbott's leadership.

We can only hope that Mr Turnbull will have learned from
the Abbott experience and will not repeat the same
mistakes.

The following website by Nicholas Stuart in the
Brisbane Times is worth a read:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/the-elements-that-make-tony-abbotts-departure-inevitable-have-fallen-into-place-20150914-gjm2id.html
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 1:28:24 PM
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Foxy, I would be delighted if you could point to one new bill that Juliar passed that benefitted the economy one jot. Instead we got a government captive to the greens passing 18000 new regulations that added nothing to the economy, and gave businesses and bureaucrats endless paperwork to fill out to satisfy greens dogma, while withholding approval to almost every new mining or development expansion.

If you could show me one promise that Juliar kept or anything she did to benefit the economy I will be surprised, let alone enough to compensate for the damage she did.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 4:00:48 PM
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Foxy and Suseonline obviously have forgotten how badly Turnbull performed when he was Opposition leader. For confirmation, look up the poll results for that era – they were significantly worse than Abbott’s. Turnbull, who sounded out becoming a Labor MP, always has appealed more to non-Coalition voters.

Turnbull already has shown how two-faced, if not hypocritical, he can be. On Monday he fiercely derided Tony Abbott for his parliamentary performance. With the body of the former PM still warm after being knifed in the back, Turnbull yesterday in Parliament warmly praised Abbott for his parliamentary achievements in the past five years.

I remain to be convinced that Turnbull will do a better job than Abbott
Posted by Raycom, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 11:28:02 AM
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Men like Peter Bowden, choose to whitewash the facts to make them conform to their peculiar and demonstrably failed socialist worldview.

Memo to Peter, the Australian public does not directly elect it's Prime Minister's. Which is a pity. But we can indirectly vote for them at election time when we accept the decisions of their respective political parties, and vote for whomsoever their political parties have decided to be their leader. That is why we get incensed when those same parties knife their own leaders in the back.

Hitler, Galtieri, and Saddam Hussein all started wars because they thought that the western world was all full of wimps like you, who would let them get away with aggression that threatened world peace. Unless you display to such people that you will fight if they invade other people's countries, you are simply encouraging other tin pot dictators to act the same way. I would have thought that even a socialist could figure that out.

Why should Tony Abbott apologise over what your comrades Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard authorised? Indonesia is committing acts of aggression against Australia by allowing Muslims to colonise Australia for Islam, by aiding and abetting country shopping mostly Muslim economic migrants to use Indonesia as a base to violate our immigration laws. And allowing Indonesian ships crewed by Indonesians to do it.

You laughingly claim that "conservatives" are warmongers. Ever heard of Joseph Stalin? And yes, Adolph Hitler was a socialist. He hated the very idea of democracy. Socialists are like Muslims, there are many different brands and they all hate democracy and each other. Please note that no democracy has ever gone to war with a democracy. If you do not want wars, support democracy. The more democracy the better.

IS has declared war on the whole non Muslim world, and is even destroying some of the world's most revered archaeological sites to drive that point home. That includes you, Peter. You are going to look funny without a head, unless you figure out who your real enemies are.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 17 September 2015 4:25:53 AM
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