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Lessons for history from an Australian prime minister : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 14/9/2015

This is a speculative essay. It asks why, in a modern democracy, Australia should elect a Prime Minister who is widely and internationally criticised as overly militaristic and not that caring of the welfare of its people.

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SM,

Do us the honour of naming your source....what sort of immature poster are you?

Who is it - Devine, Chris Kenny...Bolt? (None of whom could be referred to with a straight face as "journalists")

"Here's something from a recognized journalist, not the pinheads you quote:

Tony Abbott was clearly the best of the past four prime ministers — eclipsing Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard and Rudd redux — yet he, too, was cut down by his own party. Abbott was, to some extent, the master of his own demise, but his failure to reach two years in the role raises questions about a rapidly mutating political culture. A politician who constantly proved his critics wrong, he probably would have done so again at next year’s election, which helps explain the vitriol directed at him. Strangely enough, Abbott was the victim of his successes as well as his failings. And, in a final perversion, his greatest beneficiary is Malcolm Turnbull."

ROFL!
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 20 September 2015 6:16:20 PM
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Parrot,

Anyone that talks about the daily "telecrap" has forfeited any right to judge maturity.

Secondly Learn to use google it's not that hard. It's Chris Kenny, deputy editor at a real paper and ex Turnbull staffer, so he has in depth knowledge of what he is talking about. Completely the opposite of the idiots you quote.

Here is more of that article.

"Abbott not only led the Coalition into power, his fortitude and resolve delivered some of its most difficult policy victories. Against the will and expectations of the media/political class, he stopped the boats, restored the integrity of the immigration system and eliminated a vainglorious and economically damaging carbon tax. Perhaps no other Liberal would have had the mettle to do this.

These breakthroughs have been enormously beneficial for the nation, underpinning economic prosperity by protecting our international competitiveness and restoring public faith in our immigration program. Yet not only did Abbott fail to receive appropriate plaudits, his success attracted further opprobrium.

Abbott had antagonised the media/political class by proving them wrong; so he had to be punished. They said he was unelec­table; his was a record landslide. They said he would never stop the boats; it took him four months. They said he would trigger conflict with Indonesia; he weathered a spying storm that Labor created, resistance to boat turnbacks, a new president, protests over executions and still smoothed over the relationship. They said Australia would be left behind on carbon pricing; they were wrong on that, too.

Every day Abbott was successful was another day the press gallery, the ABC, academe and the commentariat were confronted by their poor misjudgments. Little wonder they wanted him gone."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 21 September 2015 4:18:44 AM
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SM,

Anyone who refers to Chris Kenny - and yes, I presumed it was probably he - as "having a depth of knowledge and knows what he's talking about" deserves to have me go ROFL!

He makes me ROFL each day on twitter, and provides much merriment as he is shot down daily there. As a political commentator, he's an immature pixie who tweets rubbish. His "articles" are little different.

What's the use of prattling on about how well Abbott won the last election? Leaving aside his constant debacles, his ridiculous flag-waving and uniform draping, his vacuous and cringe-worthy rhetoric, he sailed in on 95% lies - that's the kind thing that infuriates the electorate - just like it did with that other arch liar, Campbell Newman.

Journalist, Andrew Probyn recounted being on a plane back to the West when the spill was happening. The captain put an announcement through that Turnbull had won the spill - apparently cheers erupted through the plane "from economy to business class".

That's why Abbott was booted - he was universally despised. His own party knew that...something you and dipstick Kenny can't see.

Btw, the way, it's common courtesy and proper practice to name or link to your quotes (you went to uni - didn't they teach you to reference?) You don't tell people to google.

Always fun to watch you pull out "Parrot" - I know you're on the ropes : )
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 21 September 2015 8:05:25 AM
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Dear Poirot,

Shadow Minister is out of his depth well and truly.
Especially when -
he still persists in referring to our former Prime
Minister as "Juliar." Therefore to use his own
logic - anyone that refers to a former PM in such
terms has indeed forfeited any right to judge
another Prime Minister with maturity.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 September 2015 4:20:20 PM
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Parrot,

It is just that type of left whinge idiotic sneering that makes you look so stupid, especially when you cock it up so badly.

CK was an award winning journalist and author before moving into politics where he held several high ranking positions incl chief of staff to Malcolm Turnbull. After leaving politics he has continued in journalism as deputy editor for the Australian, and as a television reporter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kenny_(journalist)

So when the cards are down, there are very few political journalists with CK's talent and relevant experience. Yet you sneer at him whilst happily quoting from journalist incompetents such Chris Wallace whose political experience is non existent, and journalist experience is feeble.

I also remember CK making several calls on Juliar's boat policy with regards numbers and deaths at sea that Labor rubbished, but all came true. So sneer all you want, but don't quote idiotic blogs and expect to be taken seriously.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 21 September 2015 5:46:43 PM
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Sorry, SM...but poor old Chris is so partisan and rabidly right wing that....well...he's just like you - and we all know how powerful your commentary is.

There's nothing impressive about his writing at all...nothing.

It's stock standard right wing guff - unimaginative and lacking any stand out ability.

I can see why you're impressed.

But you should be singing from the rooftops.

Malcolm's ascendancy has caused an impressive poll bounce - 12 up points in the Morgan and Labor is 12 points down (two party preferred)

While one doesn't expect the figures to stay quite that healthy, it's a change from L/NP polls under Abbott which were bogged down around 8-10 points short of Labor.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 21 September 2015 6:24:39 PM
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