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Abbott's Syrian refugee solution : Comments
By Binoy Kampmark, published 9/9/2015The latest Australian position on refugees is fundamentally consistent with its broader discriminatory practices.
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Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 8:12:57 AM
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I can understand the author's dismay and anger! Fancy actually doing something the vast majority of his fellow countrymen want rather than following his idiot ideas.
Well sunshine get used to it. I for one am so pleased that this will send a clear message of what the consequences are when a "Religion" decides that we will bow down to it. Bring in people who have suffered from Islam and watch Shorten change his tune. Mate this is what your fellow Australian's want and you have to realise although you think you are so smart you are actually a complete fool. Look at Europe and the disaster that has been wholesale muslim immigration, just look! Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 8:13:50 AM
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More tripe from this bigot who wants our stupid politicians to import more enemies of the West.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:09:26 AM
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Yep we know its the getup crowd who are the 'compassionate' ones. Although the hundreds of thousands of babies murdered each year would not agree. The hatred of Abbott by these Government funded activist is incredible. The same mob who want to spend billions on refugees make numerous unfunded promises on education , health etc. When ask to pay $5 for a doctor civil disobedience follows. The left and its gullible followers are contemptible with their false outage and compassion. Now their hatred of Christianity ( exposing their false morality) will result in more terrorist in this country. How the left can use a picture of a drowned 3 year old, make up so many lies and fool the masses shows the education system had succeeded in dumbing down so many.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:57:30 AM
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I would suggest that Australia, amongst one of the most generous refugee intake nations in the western OECD nations, take the MOST endangered refugees, those with the least likelihood of safe return when the situation settles (Christian, Zadiki and other minority groups) from Syria, commensurate proportionately (per head of population and GDP) with those of Saudi Arabia, Quata, United Arab Emirates and the other gulf states. I think that would be fair and reasonable.
Posted by Prompete, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 10:06:00 AM
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ah that's Runner showing that Christian compassion again.
Just replace the word Muslim with Jew and see if you still think your posts are acceptable. Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 10:20:27 AM
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Binoy,
Clearly, Australia should take some of these desperate people, to relieve the burden on Europe. Perhaps then, we can wait to see if the Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, Iran, take a proportionate number of people as well. Once that has been done, we can think of perhaps taking another 12,000 - perhaps on an annual basis. But one caution: imagine if Harvey Norman halved their prices: would that, do you think, lead to an increased flow of customers ? Quite possibly. So, - forgive me for stretching an analogy to breaking point - if Europe takes, say, a million this year, how many should we take next year ? And the next ? In the paper today, it casually mentioned a camp in northern Nigeria with 800,000 refugees or displaced people. Eight hundred thousand. Just from Nigeria. I don't know how many great-hearted people from the Goat Cheese Circle there may be who can wipe their eyes and who are willing to take in refugees, perhaps a dozen or so (that's perhaps a bit optimistic), but with sixty million refugees, and probably as many internally-displaced people, and perhaps ten times as many potential economic refugees, they may be spoilt for choice. Yes, let's weep for a three-year-old washed up on a beach. And also for the seventy one highly decomposed bodies, with their putrid juices dripping out the back of a truck. Or we can try to bring these ghastly conflicts to a faster end by bombing the daylights out of the ISIS fascists, for a start. Then Assad. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 4:48:04 PM
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Joe,
Until the troops go in on the ground and with the political will behind them to make an end to the mess, then nothing much will be achieved, certainly not by bombing. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 6:08:49 PM
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Hi Is Mise,
I have a lot of faith in drones :) A few mini-drones flying above every main road in fascist-held territory might alert where to send the bombers and bottle them up, certainly their 'leaders', and eventually degrade them totally. This is going to be a slow war of attrition, of grinding down first ISIS, and then - if more secular, democratic forces can be mobilised - the more complex struggle with the Assad dictatorship can begin. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 6:34:36 PM
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Cobber that's typically stupid, traitor caste social signalling right there.
Why would we replace the word "Muslim" with the word "Jew" if we're discussing Islam? Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 8:23:38 PM
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At last a bit of silver lining in government attitude.
No one can advocate that more moslems be introduced to Australia. We have enough trouble with them already. The last thing we want is more of the same. I notice that Poland has stated that they will accept Christians only. They have seen the troubles in Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway and Sweden. In Norway & Sweden blonde girls now dye their hair brunette as moslem men concentrate their rape programs on blondes. It is the Bilal gang all over again, and there has been another such gang recently in Bendigo. There was joy in the rapists' families when they found out that they had raped an Australian woman and not a moslem woman. And this author talks about discrimination ? Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 11:24:01 PM
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Binoy Kampfmark probably earns $300,000+ taxpayer funded dollars a year just writing tripe like this which is inimical to the people who pay his wages.
Of course we don't want any more Muslims, Binoy. We have had too much trouble with the ones we have already imported. And that goes for every other western country that was stupid enough to embrace your little "all races, cultures and religions are equal, philosophy." We have to thank the Muslims for proving that particular idea wrong. The rich Muslim countries won't take even Muslim refugees, much less Christian ones, and the primary reason for that, is because they see Muslim immigration onto western countries as the only way that Islam can take these countries over. ISIS, Al Qaida, Jemaah Islamiah, and Boko haram all agree on this with the Gulf states. And you want to help them? Tell me Binoy, after you have ruined this country, where are you going to go to that will pay you $300,000 bucks a year to talk rubbish? Back to Asia I suppose? You know that the smart Asians are too clever to take in any refugees. Especially African or Muslim ones. It is just amazing that white people have become so stupid that they will pay foreigners like yourself to work against our interests, ruin our countries, and help the Asians become the most prosperous in the world. Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 10 September 2015 3:19:31 AM
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News today: It's going to take 2 years and $1 billion (probably 3-4 times more if past performances are anything to go by )to settle 12, 000 Syrian (there are now doubts as to how many are Syrian) country-shoppers. And there's the $44 million already blithely handed to Europe. All this at a time when the number of homeless Australians has risen, along with 6.2% unemployment (7.9 % in SA, where Premier Wetherill is blabbing about what he will do), and the strong possibility that there will be a rise in the GST and other taxes to cover the previous wild spending of OUR money. All to appease a Left minority of bleeding hearts and a media determined to oust weak Abbott anyway.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:52:20 PM
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Australian mainstream media don't even need political strategists etc. to encourage them, many now produce reports with either 'white nativists' input (imported from the USA) or tinged with similar sympathies and language (to manipulate readers). Case in point Friday 11 September, C10/Fairfax created a negative meme targetting refugees ....
Does anyone know if there is any substance the story and/or claims emanating from C10/Fairfax Friday i.e. 'Aylan Kurdi's father is a "people smuggler"'? http://www.smh.com.au/world/migrant-crisis/aylan-kurdis-father-is-a-people-smuggler-woman-claims-20150911-gjkt2m.html This seems like a big 'dog whistle' to 'muddy the waters' before Canning, military action in Syria, and calls to do nothing for refugees.... This 'report' ws re transmitted by other media outlets in Oz, including NewsCorp, but only international reports were via a 'white nationalist' news site in the USA: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/11/drowned-aylan-kurdis-father-accused-of-being-people-smuggler-at-helm-of-capsized-boat/ and 'red top' tabloids in UK http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/604535/Aylan-Kurdi-father-people-smuggler-refugee-crisis This is not a case of US 'white nationalists' or 'white nativists' informing Australian mainstream media and how to 'dog whistle' on race etc., but Australian mainstream media informing the bigots in US and UK i.e. Anglo world on how to 'dog whistle' (without realising)? The dumb thing is, like Hungarian neo Nazi and 'blood and soil' types whom are quite confident of their own racial and genetic purity (not), yet have no comprehension of population demographics, which will lead them to extinction, so carry on..... Posted by Andras Smith, Saturday, 12 September 2015 9:49:05 PM
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Cobber the hound
The Jews are a brilliant example of what happens when Millions of refugees(as the Jews were after World War 2) Are allowed to settle in someone else's back yard. Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 13 September 2015 8:47:42 PM
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Except it isn't someone else's backyard.
The Arabs are the invaders, or hadn't you heard ? Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 13 September 2015 10:13:29 PM
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Cherful,
That really is a disgraceful thing to write, in so many ways. There have been Jews in that part of the world for more than three thousand years. The League of Nations recognised their right to a presence there in the 1920s, and the United Nations recognise the state of Israel in 1947. You should be ashamed. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 13 September 2015 11:47:22 PM
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Loudmouth
No I'm not ashamed, and I'm not attacking the Jews. But after World War 2 no country in the World would take the millions of Jewish Refugees from Germany, so the British to punish the Arabs for colluding With Hitler, gave them the land they now occupy. Millions of Jews poured into an Area that the Arabs considered theirs rightly or wrongly At the time. As soon as the British pulled out of Palestine, 3 Or 4 Arab states raced over and attacked the Jews. Because as I said they Simply did not want the Jews being given land in what they considered to be their land at that time. Not. In their back yard as I Stated. The Jews beat them, in 6days. It was called the 6day war. And I stand by what I said, that the Jews are a perfect example of the hostility incurred When millions of them were allowed to settle in what the Arabs(rightly or wrongly) regarded as their land. I Simply state the truth of what happened. You may be horrified by it but as I always say, the truth is the truth, No matter how much we would wish it to be otherwise. It is what it is. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 14 September 2015 9:45:29 PM
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Loudmouth
The Legue of nations and the United Nations might have recognised The Jewish homeland and so do I. But the point I was making is that the Arabs didn't. Not in their back yard. Hence the 6day war. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 14 September 2015 9:52:18 PM
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I think you all might not be aware that the Koran tells moslems that
any land occupied by moslems even, for a short period, always remains moslem land. A way out example, If lakemba mosque declared that Lakemba is moslem land, Australians might need their passport, or could not claim it to be Australia. That is basically what happened in Israel. This situation has the declaration of Allah to justify it. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 1:05:19 PM
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David