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Parties without members : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 8/9/2015

The almost universal abdication of ordinary people from any active role in political parties has resulted in a very weird political landscape.

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On concern about Black Shirts threatening democracy checkout todays' http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-08/6760028

"Border Force: David Leyonhjelm recites parody poem criticising failed Operation Fortitude

[Senator Leyonhjelm] "turned bush bard in the Senate today, criticising the bungled Victorian Police's Operation Fortitude and the Australian Border Force's planned participation in rhyme.

...Channelling the iconic Australian poet Banjo Patterson, Senator Leyonhjelm characterised the failed operation as a farce.

There was movement at the station, for the word had passed around
That the cops from Border Force were on their way.
And had joined the tram conductors — 'tickets please' would be the sound.
And 'your papers please' — 'you may have over-stayed'.

All the armed and muscled black shirts, led by their new tsar,
Were primed and ready for a fight.
For the black shirts love to hunt where the brown and black boys are.
And the Commish sniffs the limelight with delight.

Senator Leyonhjelm's poetic licence also stretched to Prime Minister Tony Abbott, and senior ministers Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton.

And Tony, Scott and Peter were keen to lend a hand
Giving power to the black shirts warmed their souls
With weekly tales of freedoms to be banned
It's the best way to pick up in the polls.

There you have it gents.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 12:15:08 AM
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Hi all,

I think the reality is your average person is dissilisioned by politicians and due to politicians poor public images do not want to be involved or associated with politics.

It is also the case that those with the views to make a difference to today's society and often labelled unfairly when they associate to any one political party. For example a citizen who wants to make a difference but does not want to run as a conservative or labour candidate may choose to represent the british national party. This is a party now with a large following and strong political message. However once associated many candidates are ridiculed as racist or anti immigration without fully listing to the candidates views on the issue. A sad state of affairs but the reality I am afraid.
Posted by NickHowsden, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 6:49:18 AM
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FYI,

The Nazis were the brown shirts, which would classify most hipsters as Nazis. The worst black shirts are the CFMEU union thugs that go to construction sites and extort money by threats.

Anyway the National socialists fascists and communists are all extreme socialists favouring government control of productions and far closer to Labor and the greens than to the liberals.

The new border force is the departments of customs and immigration rebadged, and clearly never intended to stop people and ask for identification. The later was brain fart of the left who are desperately trying to sell it as fact.

The reality is that under labor between 1000 and 2000 died in boats compared to none under the coalition.

Similarly, in the first few years of the Syrian crisis Labor granted refuge to 98 Syrians, yet are now calling for Abbott to give 10 000 places above the 4000+ p.a. he has already allocated.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 12:37:12 PM
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There is no link between politicians and citizens.
Its "Us" and "Them".

Global issues seem to take precedent over National issues and with it comes a complete disconnect between citizens and their leaders.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 3:39:31 PM
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//The Nazis were the brown shirts, which would classify most hipsters as Nazis. The worst black shirts are the CFMEU union thugs that go to construction sites and extort money by threats.//

On a construction site? You won't find any blackshirts there, just hi-vis shirts. Even if they do wear black shirts, I find it really hard to believe that they are worse than Mosley's or Mussolini's blackshirts - two mobs of fascists who did wear black shirts and who make the CFMEU look like the Girl Guides when it comes to ethically dubious behaviour.

//Anyway the National socialists fascists and communists are all extreme socialists//

I wouldn't be so sure about lumping the Fascists in with the National Socialists. Mussolini had this to say about socialism:

"We declare war against socialism, not because it is socialism, but because it has opposed nationalism. Although we can discuss the question of what socialism is, what is its program, and what are its tactics, one thing is obvious: the official Italian Socialist Party has been reactionary and absolutely conservative. If its views had prevailed, our survival in the world of today would be impossible."

The opening phrase, 'we declare war against socialism', suggests to me an extreme anti-socialist rather than an extreme socialist. Their economic policies definitely tended more towards capitalism than socialism. Is the only basis for your claim that the Fascists were socialists 'Fascists were twats, socialists are twats, therefore fascists are socialists'? Because that isn't a valid argument: Labradors are dogs and and greyhounds are dogs but labradors are not greyhounds.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 5:10:59 PM
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Online Opinion Forum's FASCIST FASHION SHOW

Some will find this strangely erotic.

1. In the beginning, ladies, was Mussolini's Black Shirts - their appearance and ethos - https://youtu.be/97nSCWU_hXQ

2. The Italian Black Shirts so appealed to failed artist and impotent Adolf that he created his own line:

Down the catwalk are the spunky SS troopies https://youtu.be/uK3wbUK-OeM

3. Unfortunately oneball Hitler has given the thumbs down to Border Force telegraphing its Blitzkriegs beforehand - but bombing Syria shows promise https://youtu.be/cUlLLccEz3o
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 6:50:37 PM
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