That 2 million savings , must resemble a lot of cleaners or a lot of overtime. Needs more investigation.

The interim report was supplied by Haydon ?/.
There is someway to go before anything final can be made.

This is old news from may 2015.

How does shorten get involved in this, or was that because he was the AWU front man.

The company concerned were new owners of a dying duck business which they were convinced to buy into because the status quo of a 2010 agreement. Hence the lower overtime rates and not the newer rates. If this did not happen the company would not have been sold and all of those people would not have had a job any more.
At that time it was legal to negotiate your own contract etc;

Have you wondered why the company concerned or workers concerned did not notify authorities of any grievances at the time.
It takes a Royal Commission to find a grievance which otherwise did not exist. If some one profited by other than negotiations with the company concerned, well they should be held to account

Hi Doog,

You ask:

"Have you wondered why the company concerned or workers concerned did not notify authorities of any grievances at the time."

My limited understanding is that rival companies actually did lodge complaints, before they went out of business.

And as for the workers involved, do you know many Anglo cleaners ? Anglo male cleaners ? And being mostly non-Anglo women, starting work at 3 am or 4 am, desperately hanging onto their jobs, one here and one there, do you reckon they had much industrial clout, that they could complain ?

But Shorten seems to have done alright out of it all.

Joe

Loudmouth Why do you say shorten did alright out of it all.

The only reason the company was sold and all of those jobs saved was the status quo of the contracts. This company was the largest with the most workers involved.

I don't think there was anything sinister about it. It had to happen that way or everybody would have been out of work.

Maybe a better question would be: why were the other struggling companies in the industry not able to match Cleanevent's pay and conditions?

Doog, Aidan,

My understanding, limited as I may be, is that the AWU did a one-on-one deal with Cleanevent, deliberately shutting out other companies, to pay Cleanevent cleaners a flat $ 16 per hour when the award rate - for all those other companies - was $ 26 per hour. How are they supposed to compete with a company which can undercut them, with union collusion ? So they go out of business, and the low-paying monopoly company makes millions, thanks to the AWU deal.

And the best thing for the union is that it not only gets an annual back-hander but, without them even knowing it, those non-Anglo workers, mostly women, are drafted into the union, to boost its numbers and clout at conferences etc. All paid for by Cleanevent. So the story goes.

I'm inclined to agree with Phillip Adams today, and not vote for any of the major parties next time. A vote for Nick, might do the trick !

Joe

Joe with your limited knowledge;. The company's concerned were all in the process of hiring 457 visa persons. That is why the renegotiations to stay with an out of date contract.

I think your figures are very rubbery along with the reported 2 million savings.

The union got the business concerned to go with the present workforce and not change to the proven slave labour 457 visa holders.

Shorten has a right of reply and be cross examined by an individual judge when the time is right.

Abbott's fingerprints are all over the Royal Commission so be careful of what has come out of it to date.