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Dinosaur unions shown up by pro-worker breakaway associations : Comments

By Gary Johns, published 26/8/2015

Shorten’s actions are the embodiment of the ALP’s ­dilemmas and no amount of blackguarding the commissioner can solve them.

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The problem with the Australian politic is much deeper than a problem of doubtful Union representation of the workers!

To parade the Union movement in this article as it does, as being the main impediment to worker progress and industrial harmony, is shallow, and ideologically driven drivel...
Making more unions by another name, will fall squarely into the hands of the powerful (like Shorten).

Evidence of union corruption before the commission now is simply evidence of damage caused by non-compulsory unionism. A small group of union members now fight for conditions on the job, benefits to be shared by all, member or non member: Often, this is a ruthless game, people get lost on the journey!

What this author unknowingly concedes though, is the imperative of worker movements to defend conditions against a ruthless economy!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 9:30:30 AM
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Yes, hopefully we will follow the historical example of Lech Valensa!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 10:49:28 AM
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That's not what dinosaur unions are!

Dinosaur unions are the ones that see everything as adversarial and are keen to strike. In Australia they died out in the 1980s (the BLF was one of the last) but they're still a problem in Britain.

Having competition between unions sounds good, and for some services it is, but Australian experience has shown that for bargaining a single union is more effective.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:01:44 AM
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Workers seem to have made up their own minds about unions - they are not joining them.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:05:53 AM
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I'm not in the CFMEU because I'd like to keep the number of Comancheros bikies in my life at it's present level of zero.
Union sites are horrible anyway, you can't even leave a pencil lying around in case someone steals it, let alone the drug dealing and use on site, the standover tactics, no thanks, I've been there and I don't like living in fear and suspicion of my workmates.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:32:43 AM
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Employers are encouraging workers not to join unions, but the workplace pays union fees for their workers. That has been the move for years now.
When unions get a rise or conditions it is passed onto all workers with out favor, which has always been the case.

It took unions to get earmuffs and safety glasses, unions are a necessary evil as seen by some. Without unions the worker would be cut to shreds, just the way the libs would like it to be.

Unions over the years have evolved to keep pace with what happens in the workplaces, this will always be the case. Pro worker breakaway groups is but a name, one thing is for sure they will be looking out for their benefit in their working lives. It goes to be proved as to any gains will be passed on or will it be, this is mine you get your own.

Unions will not be going anywhere anytime soon. The more union bashing that goes on, the more workers will be turned away from pro union bashing political parties.
Posted by doog, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:46:14 AM
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