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Should Australia lean to Japan before China? : Comments

By Ruo Wang, published 20/8/2015

The tense Sino-Japanese relations and Australia's close economic ties with China suggest Australia would face limited strategic prospects if it further leaned to Japan.

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Of course we should be leaning towards Japan over China. Japan is democratic country with civilized attitudes towards its own people and the world.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:21:29 AM
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China is no ally of Australia. It simply and sneakily wants our raw materials. Japan is, at least, a country with some experience of liberal democracy, even if it does possess an annoying culture. We can lean towards whomever we want, as those two countries do when it suits them.
Posted by Cody, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:08:35 PM
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We shouldn't suck up to China (or Japan or even Indonesia).

Kevin Rudd had the right idea: we should be a trusted friend who tells it to them straight. Unfortunately he didn't properly follow through on that. Had he defended (to the Americans) China's right to manipulate its own currency, he'd probably have achieved that. But as it is, China does not see us as a friend at all.

We should base our foreign policy on issues, not alliances.

Of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't have alliances. Our alliance with the USA is robust enough to withstand issues, and it should certainly continue. But we should never let alliances cloud our judgement.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:35:52 PM
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Agree Aidan: As to the subject of subs;they should be built here, with our locally smelted steel and Nuclear powered.

Given modern nuclear power ( pebble reactors) is safer than diesel and able to stay at sea for more than a year if needed!

To that end we should import whatever technology that best allows that and the 50 knots plus escape speeds that would present?

Modern subs are bigger than 4,000 ton WW11 aircraft carriers; and given that is so, should be used to carry fleets of Aussie invented mini subs into harm's way? War machines must be war capable!

That being a better option than risking a whole ship (oops, boat) of the line and a hundred or more lives, just to deliver a sizable and deadly payload?

The completely acrylic Aussie invented bulletproof minisub dives deeper than any comparable metal sub, well below the range of conventional depth charges; and literally flies through the water due to a steam powered venturi jet system.

Stronger than steel transparent acrylics allows the operators to eyeball the targets and their countermeasures.

Moreover, rockets can be fired underwater and travel to the intended target far faster than torpedoes Which they can eyeball and knock out!

Given the number of subs possibly traveling these waters, we may well need to use our subs as a means to deliver countermeasures, that keep these things below a launch capability of their own?

The only real danger that presents in tricky man in the middle peacemaker role?

Not only should we build the subs here but decide for ourselves their most efficient role?

And given their cargo could be a fleet of mini subs able to descend below what others would normally expect?

Able to deliver unexpected firepower of our own, if threatened and needing to do so!

We can be China's friend, but given her two faced human rights record, never her ally!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 20 August 2015 1:17:45 PM
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This document, written by China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/gjhdq_665435/2675_665437/ - purportedly written by a Uni student - contains nothing new.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 20 August 2015 4:37:36 PM
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And your point is . . . ?
Posted by Cody, Thursday, 20 August 2015 5:01:29 PM
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