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Fetal tissue sting : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 24/7/2015

But why should we be surprised or shocked by the discovery that fetal tissue was actively sought by medical researchers?

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It wasn't only pagans that performed child or other human sacrifice: the story of Abraham being prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac has been well told (Genesis 22:2-8)

And of course the ultimate 'human' sacrifice was that of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Posted by McReal, Friday, 24 July 2015 7:31:45 AM
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Now an even more disturbing video has conme out.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/static/new-video-planned-parenthood-official-haggles-over-baby-body-part-prices-jo.html?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=cf921810d7-LifeSiteNews_com_Intl_Headlines_06_19_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0caba610ac-cf921810d7-326199314

I don't agree though Peter that making money is not an incentive for Planned Parenthood to be involved in this as the, "I want a Lamborghini" comment at the end of this second video suggests.
Posted by JP, Friday, 24 July 2015 9:21:10 AM
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Sellick writes: "You will notice that pro-abortionists will always use the term "fetus" and never "child" they use "calvarium" instead of "skull", they use "demise" instead of death. Medical euphemisms are used to disguise reality."

Not only pro-abortionists use the term "fetus" but doctors and anyone concerned with accurately describing the process of gestation. A fetus is not a child. To be a child birth has to take place, and the baby has to grow to a certain stage. Those who get hysterical over abortion will call a fetus a child and then will charge those who call a fetus by an accurate designation as using a medical euphemism.

Doctors also call the upper leg bone a femur. Doctors refer to body parts by the conventional anatomical designation. Calvaria (not calvarium) is no more a euphemism than femur. It is the plural calvaria rather than calvarium because it is in several pieces. It should not be called a skull since it is not a skull. Only later in human development when the pieces have fused can it accurately be called a skull. The fetus has clavaria - not a skull.

A euphemism is a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing. To use anatomical terms and an accurate name is not a euphemism.

It is common in our society to use euphemisms for death. "Passed on" is a common euphemism for death, and it is more of a euphemism than demise which is not a euphemism at all but a fancier word for death.

Sellick continues his emotive language:

"No, we should not be surprised by this, it occurs because we as a society have made the decision that the fetus is not a child,"

A fetus is not a child. That is no societal decision.

A woman is no fetus but an adult human. Many of those who would deny a woman's right to have an abortion erase the distinction between a fetus, a child and an adult in their emotive diatribes.
Posted by david f, Friday, 24 July 2015 9:39:34 AM
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McReal.
The point about the Abraham story in the context of other cultures performing child sacrifice was that God did not demand Isaac's sacrifice.

The point about Jesus death is that he willingly walked to Jerusalem to oppose the religious powers of the day and suffered the consequences.
Posted by Sells, Friday, 24 July 2015 9:49:38 AM
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david f - The Queensland Criminal Code certainly recognises that a pregnant woman is carrying a "child" as the section cited below makes clear. Moreover, the penalty is the same for killing an unborn child as for killing a born child.

CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 313
313 Killing unborn child
2) Any person who unlawfully assaults a female pregnant with a child and destroys the life of, or does grievous bodily harm to, or transmits a serious disease to, the child before its birth, commits a crime.

Maximum penalty—imprisonment for life.

In every day language no woman who is happily pregnant refers to what she is carrying as a "fetus", it is always a baby or a child. It is only when abortion is being considered that the term fetus starts being used. It is obviously less distressing to talk about the demise of a fetus than the killing of a baby or child.

Your position makes as much sense as saying that you can't say "teenagers" you have to call them "adolescents". No, just as femurs and upper leg bones are the same thing, unborn babies and fetuses are the same thing.
Posted by JP, Friday, 24 July 2015 10:04:02 AM
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Any man's death diminishes me. The ultimate 'human' sacrifice is not that of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Millions of human lives have been sacrificed due to greed, hate, prejudice and other human flaws. To say that his death outweighs all others is to diminish and denigrate the sufferings of millions. Christian mythology has elevated the suffering of one person to an unreasonable extent.

The biblical stories of the binding of Isaac, the sacrifice of the daughter of Jephthah and the idea that Jesus could take upon himself the sins of mankind are ugly, primitive fables that hopefully humans in the future will regard as they regard Greek, Roman, Norse and other fables in the present.

Not knowing of all the sufferings and death of all humans it would be arrogant of me to write that any paricular death is the ultimate.
Posted by david f, Friday, 24 July 2015 10:15:44 AM
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