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Education and gratitude : Comments

By Toni Hassan, published 6/7/2015

If he was serious about better using public funds he would stop using them to boost private schools and concentrate on public ones.

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Well, “The daft and radical idea of charging high-income parents for public schooling” is a direct consequence of the Gonski report. I predicted it in a letter to the editor to The Age the day that report was released:
‘21/2/2012

The Gonski report is, overall, a magnificent and meticulous plan for the future funding our schools (“A historic chance to fix education funding”, 21/2), but it contains two daggers – one pointing at the hearts of all our teachers and one pointing at the hearts of low-fee private schools….

‘To ignore school resources and determine funding for private schools based on the capacity of parents to pay is both discriminatory and inequitable. It is discriminatory because there is no suggestion that public schools be funded in the same way - though this recommendation will give impetus to that idea. It is inequitable because it will force the most inclusive private schools to put up their fees and thus become more exclusive.’

The letter, just like the previous 20 I had submitted on the topic of the Gonski review, was not published.

The public education lobby, including the AEU, failed to recommend any funding model at all to the Gonski review and must therefore take some responsibility for the panel’s keeping the Howard government’s socio-economic status funding model in place (recommendations 2, 3 and 21), which it renamed ‘capacity to contribute’. As I have been saying for three and a half years, if ‘capacity to contribute’ becomes the principle for funding private schools, it will become the principle for funding government schools.

Those railing against the Abbott government for countenancing means-tested fees in government schools should direct their anger at the public education lobby whose monumental failure to read the Gonski process correctly led to this point.
Posted by Chris C, Monday, 6 July 2015 8:10:49 AM
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The idea of charging parents for the public schooling of their children has merit. For one, people often do not place much value on something they get for nothing. Secondly, it might provide some price signal for them as consumers in the education market, and result in more critical decision making in matters such as choice of school.

These issues, of course, have been raised before in debates about introducing a "voucher system" of school funding. Currently parents pay virtually nothing, if their kids go to a Government school but can be paying a small fortune in fees for some non-government schools. One thing is certain. Levelling the playing field, by either charging fees at Government schools or equally subsidising non-government schools, would almost certainly result in a further mass exodus from the Government system, except in country areas where population densities are insufficient to support choice of local school.
Posted by Bren, Monday, 6 July 2015 10:14:15 AM
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anything that prevents the secular system from having to see why it has failed so miserably despite massive increases in fudning over the last 20 years will keep the teachers union happy. I see very little 'gratitude' from those who have an entitlement mentality. Maybe if people were truely concerned about education (aside from self interest industry) we would look at kids behaviour. Kids from Asia appreciate and value education and are prepared to work to achieve results instead of a dumbed down system that tries to make everyone feel good and get a pass despite effort and reality.
Posted by runner, Monday, 6 July 2015 10:19:58 AM
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I think the author is laboring under a misconception about the authorship of the idea of school fees for the wealthy. More likely it came from some misguided left leaning public servant with little to do with his/her time.
Runner. "Kids from Asia appreciate and value education and are prepared to work to achieve results instead of a dumbed down system that tries to make everyone feel good and get a pass despite effort and reality."
It isn't the kids, it is their parents with these desirable attitudes, something which seems to be lacking in today's working class families.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 6 July 2015 10:34:02 AM
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Private schools in Australia are generally aimed at indoctrination of some belief system. It is the parents' right to send a child to such an institution. However, indoctrination is not education, and there is no reason that the general taxpayer should fund such an institution.

When a child enters the adult world he or she will in general not be isolated from those who do not share the individual's belief system. Schools segregated by religion, race, income or other criteria which have nothing to do with the student's ability to learn deprive a child of what I believe is a desirable part of education - the encounter with those of different backgrounds. The mix of students with different backgrounds broadens a child and prepares a child for living in a society where people come from many backgrounds.

Support the public schools and eliminate private school funding. Let children of various backgrounds learn together, grow up together and live together when they are adult.
Posted by david f, Monday, 6 July 2015 10:44:15 AM
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'Private schools in Australia are generally aimed at indoctrination of some belief system'

come on David f you can't possibly be naive enough to see that the secularist dogmas are pushed as hard if not harder than any other belief. And don't give ,me that c_ap that it is based on science. I was taught a alot of the secular dogma in my schooling.
Posted by runner, Monday, 6 July 2015 11:00:17 AM
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