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ANSTO's radioactive waste management : Comments

By Anica Niepraschk, published 3/7/2015

Even though the waste can be temporarily stored at ANSTO and possibly at a national facility later on, the question remains of how it will one day finally be disposed of.

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Well, when the tide of "official" misinformation and mindless hysteria dies down, we may be able to put this stuff where it will be eternally safe.

buried deep somewhere in the permanently parched outback on the driest continent on earth; but particularly if we can earn literal billions for doing so!

The waste can be melted and combined with molten glass to form a sealed solid ceramic like product invented by our own CSRIO, that is impervious to both alkaline or acid products

Then stored as a solid in stainless steel drums that are then stored and packed tight in sand in cast iron containers that when tested in a contest between said cast iron container and a loco doing 40 klicks the container remained undamaged whereas the loco was totaled.

there is no doubt that somewhere in the waterless interior, will be a safe upland repository eminently suitable to safely store this stuff deep in dry as bone tunnels, until it becomes reuseable in FBR's; at which time it will be a valuable item we can sell back to those who gave us charge of it, for a suitable fee.

And given there is no water, not a problem for natives, who protected by metres of solid rock, still need faraway reliable water sources to survive.

It's high time the tide of misinformation and activist scaremongering ended!

If it came from here then we have a responsibility to take it back and dispose of it thoughtfully.

But particularly those who earned a quid as royalties when it was first mined!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:10:02 PM
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Well Rhrosty no:

- The odd coincidence that Aboriginal land is chosen for waste dumps suggest white landowners don't want waste dumps on their own land - for some reason...

- building waste dumps far from white coastal cities is convenient for cities but potentially dangerous for country-people (white and Aboriginal) who live near the dumps.

- claims of the unlikelihood of 1 in 250,000 year natural disasters (earthquakes!) rupturing-venting waste dumps forgets the assumed rarity of the earthquake that lead-on to the Fukushima disaster...

- insider sabotage or human terrorist action siezing radioactive material from isolated low guarded waste dumps for redistribution in cities should also be factored in now...

- the cost to the taxpayer of permanent waste dumps + essential manned security to guard them, should be factored into nuclear corporations' profit expectations...
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 3 July 2015 4:23:56 PM
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//The odd coincidence that Aboriginal land is chosen for waste dumps suggest white landowners don't want waste dumps on their own land - for some reason...//

I'll have one. Nuclear waste dumps are only frightening to people who don't understand how little danger they actually pose.

But when I was at uni, I had the opportunity to spend a semester studying 'nuclear physics & it's applications'. As taught by a real, card-carrying physicist and not by some hippie who did high school physics and believes that that makes him just as knowledgeable.

So I know better than about 95% of people who like to shoot their mouth off about this subject how much relative risk nuclear power plants and their associated waste dumps pose. And it's a lot less than you pretend it is.

// building waste dumps far from white coastal cities is convenient for cities but potentially dangerous for country-people (white and Aboriginal) who live near the dumps.//

Bullshyt. You've seen how I've taken AC to task for making technically incorrect statements. You know I am tenacious and that I won't accept anti-scientific crap from anybody. Properly managed nuclear waste dumps aren't dangerous to anybody, save the people who fret too much about the mythical dangers and raise their blood pressure and risk of cardiovascular disease. Which has naught to do with the radiation, and aught to do with the fretting.

//claims of the unlikelihood of 1 in 250,000 year natural disasters (earthquakes!) rupturing-venting waste dumps forgets the assumed rarity of the earthquake that lead-on to the Fukushima disaster...//

Assumed rarity? Who in the world, who understands the most basic principles of contemporary geology, would ever claim that earthquakes around the Pacific 'Ring of Fire' are assumed to be rare events?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 3 July 2015 7:52:07 PM
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// insider sabotage or human terrorist action siezing radioactive material from isolated low guarded waste dumps for redistribution in cities should also be factored in now...//

No, it shouldn't. It's bloody difficult to seize anything which is buried without first carrying out some excavation work, which is likely to attract the attention of the Man. Johnny Q. Towel-head cannot just waltz into a waste dump with his excavating equipment, dig up a bunch high-level waste for use in dirty bombs and waltz off again. Backhoes are large, noisy and BRIGHT FCUKING YELLOW. They stick out like a sore thumb. You can't misappropriate high-level waste by stealth, and anybody who tries it by force will end up shot.

//the cost to the taxpayer of permanent waste dumps + essential manned security to guard them, should be factored into nuclear corporations' profit expectations...//

Of course they should.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 3 July 2015 7:52:47 PM
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Has anyone ever met an activist who could lie straight in bed?

Please let me know, I'm interested in the impossible.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 4 July 2015 12:08:18 AM
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//Has anyone ever met an activist who could lie straight in bed?//

I can. I'm 5' 7'', my bed is six foot, and I tend to sleep flat on my back. That gives me a whole five inches of wriggly room.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 4 July 2015 2:07:47 AM
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