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Time to erase Israel's Green Line : Comments

By Neve Gordon, published 19/6/2015

If once the Green Line was conceived as a border that could provide a just solution between Israelis and Palestinians, currently the Green Line serves as a very effective mechanism of colonial control.

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David G. What are you talking about?

Israel has NOT ‘stolen’ land, communities built in area C are not illegal.

Israel and the Palestinian Authority signed the Oslo Accords in 1993. Judaea and Samaria was divided.
Area A, is under full Palestinian Authority military control. 2-million Arabs live there.
Area B, is meant to be under joint Israeli/Palestinian control. It is essentially under Palestinian Authority Control, they deny access to Jewish religious sites where Jewish Pilgrims have been shot at by Palestinian Authority forces.
Area C contains your ‘settlers’ and ‘settlements’ with few Arabs, is under full Israeli control.
Your “stolen land” belongs to no one. The land was offered to the Arabs as a homeland in 1948, who refused it.
They chose to go to war rather than accept the UN’s decision to partition Palestine between its Jews and Arabs.
Five Arab nations attacked the fledgling State and lost with JORDAN & EGYPT STEALING THE LAND FROM THEIR ARAB BROTHERS.

Have you ever wondered why Judaea and Samaria, the heartland of the Jewish race is named the WEST BANK.?
No!
When Jordan STOLE Judaea and Samaria from their Arab brothers, they renamed it a “The WEST BANK OF JORDAN”
After the 1967 war Israel offered to relinquish the land it had acquired in exchange for peace with its neighbours, the Arab world’s response was issued at a summit in Khartoum, was not one no, but three NOs:
“NO PEACE WITH ISRAEL.
NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH ISRAEL.
NO RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL”
In 2000, Camp David offered Arabs a sovereign state with shared control of Jerusalem and billions of dollars in compensation for Arab refugees. Yasser Arafat refused and launched the deadly terror war “the Second Intifada”
2008 Ehud Olmert offered Mahmoud Abbas a peace agreement that would have guaranteed a Palestinian state in virtually all the West Bank, Gaza, and part of Jerusalem.

Once again, the Arabs turned down the offer.

Mahmoud Abbas still refuses to discuss peace, claims he’ll never accept Israel. Children learn that Israel is their country and show as much on their maps.

http://www.think-israel.org/jul13pix/abbas.palestine.map.of.israel.jp
Posted by SF, Friday, 19 June 2015 9:42:33 PM
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Apart from leftist sites, which make up whatever they want. I’d like some proof from you that what you perceive to be the truth actually is. I know they are fabrications but you search this for yourself from reputable site and not leftist ones.

1.“Decent people don't torture”
Please provide some accurate information for that, because it’s a categorical lie.

2. “use white phosphorous munitions and carpet bomb a people “
Any time Israel has just white phosphorous it has been in accordance with International Law.

** Prof. Michael A. Newton at the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict "the law is clear that there are some authorized, perfectly valid uses of white phosphorus munitions, which are used by Israel “ **

** The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest the incendiary agent is being used improperly or illegally.**

3.”Decent people do not use snipers to kill Palestinian children.”
Neither does Israel. Proof?

4. “use bulldozers to demolish Palestinian houses “
Illegally built Arab and Israeli homes demolished after the court rules it. Not for no reason.

Such complete fabrications and utter crap you believe is rather sad.

5. “run over protestors” “they starve women and children (mass punishment)”
Proof?

6. “impede them at endless checkpoints”
No, only getting into Israel and clearly you are more ignorant of the truth than I could ever imagine.
I suggest you do some research into terrorism and suicide bombers.
Try this for size. Quite horrendous. Innocent children and a baby murdered as they slept
http://pamelageller.com/2011/03/islamic-jew-hatred-graphic-muslims-stab-jewish-family-of-five-to-death.html/

Try this for size too. The 123 Israeli Children Killed by Palestinian Terrorists
Posted by SF, Friday, 19 June 2015 9:43:39 PM
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7. “deprive them of medicines.”
Proof? You are one sick cookie. Gazan children come into Israel daily for things like heart surgery and cancer treatment. You revolt me that you believe such complete and utter lies. Even during conflicts people come into Israel daily for medical treatment http://www.saveachildsheartus.org/sach_home.html and has a hospital set up on the border to help injured people. The same with Syria. Israel is treating scores of people daily on the border.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-first-syrian-refugee-gives-birth-in-israeli-hospital/

8. “Decent people don't invade Palestinian homes in the middle of the night and take children away to be interrogated”
No they don’t and if you believe a now totally disproven ABC documentary ….well?

And for the ‘know all’ who wrote this article and claims

“If once the Green Line was conceived as a border that could provide a just solution between Israelis and Palestinians”

He has no idea what he is talking about either

The Green Line WAS NEVER A BORDER.

The Green Line is the line where Israel ceased an offensive.

What a shame Israel is so moral. Any other country would have carried on and taken the entire area.
Posted by SF, Friday, 19 June 2015 9:48:36 PM
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Well Neve, at the least the Israelis are getting rid of their enemies on their traditional land without mass executions, beheadings, crucifixions, and selling "Palestinian" girls as sex slaves. Which, I will point out, is exactly what the Arabs will do to the Israelis if they ever get to conquer Israel.

The Arabs have been ethnically cleansing anyone who is not a Muslim for hundreds of years. Where are the Jews in Muslim countries? For that matter, where are all the Christians, Zoroastrians and Yazidis? Most of them have fled the Ummah in terror, and the ones whom remain live in terror. You can hardly blame the Jews if they turn the table on their own oppressors and in a much more humane way, return the complement.

The Australian government has the right to resume by land if it wants to build an airport or a new highway, and if it thinks that it is in the interests of the wider community. Why should I be concerned about Arabs being in the same position that I am?
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 20 June 2015 5:07:28 AM
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Thank you. Thank you, David G for this quote.

"TIME TO ERASE ISRAEL"

You got it in one, David G. The only thing that people with your mindset want is to destroy Israel. You can bet that I will keep that quote and fling it back in your face every time you come onto OLO on an Israel related topic and start moralising against the Jews. Don't pretend that I have quoted you out of context. Your quote is the start of your reply.

Got news for you David. The Israelis are already aware of what will happen to them if the Arabs conquer them, they only have to look over the fence at their Arab neighbours mass murdering each other to create undemocratic and unstable dictatorships at war with each other. The Jews don't go walking resignedly into gas chambers anymore. Just like at Masada, they are going to are to fight for their own survival, or go down fighting. And they will encourage their internal enemies to go back to the Ummah where they can kill each other off and oppress their own minorities to their hearts content.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 20 June 2015 5:25:12 AM
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Wonder if David G. Headbanger with be able to work out a response to those posts?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 20 June 2015 11:52:15 AM
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