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Magna Carta barely makes it 800 years in Australia : Comments

By Kuranda Seyit, published 19/6/2015

Draconian laws are being rushed through parliament that will effectively turn the concept that all men are equal before the law on its head.

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Thanks LEGO.
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 21 June 2015 12:22:21 PM
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Why are the BJellys and Craig Minns of this thread defending people like Tareq Kamleh? I suppose every terrorist needs sympathisers.

Read and weep over an article ABC Online has just posted June 21, 2015:

Headline - Australian doctor helping Islamic State in Syria, Tareq Kamleh, has 'no concern' if passport is cancelled

"A former Australian doctor now helping Islamic State (IS) in Syria has responded to moves to arrest him, saying he no longer considers himself a citizen and the prospect of his passport being cancelled does not concern him.

A warrant for Tareq Kamleh's arrest was obtained by the Australian Federal Police at a closed hearing of the Adelaide Magistrates Court on Thursday.

In a post on Facebook this morning Kamleh, 29, said he had "no concern" about any moves to cancel his passport or registration as a doctor.

"I no longer consider myself an Australian," he said.

"I anticipated an arrest warrant, hence why I left in secret."

see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-21/australian-doctor-tareq-kamleh-responds-to-arrest-warrant/6561600
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 21 June 2015 1:02:46 PM
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Hi Plantagenet
Please stop misrepresenting what I'm saying. I'm not defending terrorists. I am saying terror suspects or indeed any of us deserve to have charges made against us tested in a court of law.

Even "radicals" like Barnaby Joyce and Senator Cory Bernardi think that doing away with courts and leaving decisions regarding citizenship to a minister is a bad idea. Since when did we all start thinking ministers were infallible? Most Australians rate them less trustworthy than used car salesmen.
Posted by BJelly, Sunday, 21 June 2015 1:30:41 PM
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Hi Craig,
Yes - as you say, many ordinary everyday activities are becoming more difficult or even illegal. Even organizing a street party or a lemonade stand for kids is a bureaucratic nightmare.

We are slowly losing our freedoms and no one seems to care. It is bigger than a left or right issue. Both major parties do it.

I suppose that is why we are seeing the rise of minor parties and independents. It gives me hope - the 2 major parties and the Murdoch media rail against it - so it must be a good thing for democracy.
Posted by BJelly, Sunday, 21 June 2015 1:46:17 PM
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I took up the challenge and Googled 'Craig Minns'... LOL

There a few but the first Craig Minns to come up is a paedophile in Tasmania. I'm going to give our Craig the benefit of doubt that this can't possibly be the man we read hear.

I wonder if Craig or BJelly would supply us with a list the "many ordinary everyday activities are becoming more difficult or even illegal".

Surely no one applies to their local Council for a permit (presumably for their child) to have a lemonade stand. Got anything real to add to your list Jelly Baby.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Sunday, 21 June 2015 2:19:02 PM
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You're right, CH, the person you refer to is not even a relative to the best of my knowledge. I live in Qld and have never lived in Tassie.

BJelly, I don't have a problem with the major parties, but I would like to see more effort made to find proper compromise solutions to problems rather than the pandering to the weak of mind and trembling of lip that seems to be the order of the day. The Parliament is meant to be the place in which our elected representatives set aside their personal issues and strive to come to the best possible decisions on matters that affect us all, with due and proper consideration of all the facts and implications. That includes representatives of all sides and parties.

Peter Coates, I have not mentioned the person you refer to and have no particular interest in him, other than to point out that prosecuting a doctor for practising medicine seems slightly weird. You might like to note however, that the story mentions that the police are seeking orders through the Court, which is somewhat at odds with your preferred option of "just drop a bomb on the nearest Mosque and she'll be sweet".
Posted by Craig Minns, Sunday, 21 June 2015 3:12:19 PM
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