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A deeper look at revoking citizenship : Comments
By Xavier Symons, published 17/6/2015Our particular post 9-11 socio-historical milieu has made it feasible for politicians to radically deconstruct the established liberal democratic understanding of citizenship.
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Both the modern and pre-modern concept of the law of nationality have in common the idea of a reciprocal duty between subject and State: the subject owing obedience and allegiance, and the State owing protection.
This notion pre-dates modern times. It did not come into being with the French Revolution, and the French Revolution or its Declaration of the Rights of Man did not fundamentally change it.
The only difference to the pre-modern concept that was added by the modern concept is the idea that the subject is a "citizen". The implication is that he is a kind of equal owner of the State, unlike a subject of a king.
However in law and in fact, a citizen is still a subject. He has the State forced on him. He is forced to pay for it. He is forced to obey. His withholding of consent is systematically ignored and violated.
The social contract is complete nonsense: it mply has no basis in reality. Neither society nor the State are formed by a "contract". The State in particular, is a legal monopoly of ultimate decision-making backed up by a legal monopoly of force and threats. It is moral, factual, logical, economic and legal nonsense to identify society with the State and the State with society.
The problem with the author's view of citizenship and human rights, and the dominant paradigm about human rights, is that they rest on the underlying notion that rights are whatever the State says they are.
The revoking of citizenship was always available to the State where the subject or citizen had violated his allegiance, and nothing about the current proposals changes that fact.
Therefore the current proposals do not represent a paradigm shift.
Yuyutsu
You have to understand that Susieonline defines freedom as whatever the State arbitrarily permits you to do, so like all statists she doesn't acknowledge any concept of freedom that is not dependent on the State's unilateral discretion.