EJ

" It’s not the first time that predators plan, carry out and try to justify a territorial grab by playing victim and demonising those who speak out against them. "

Yes Hamas has it down pat.

Hamas seems more like a Resistance than a predator - maybe it has set out territorial demands other than on conquered territory, if so they'll be recorded somewhere. I don't mean demands like the totally non-predatory demands of the Czech, the Polish, the Russian, the French, the Dutch, the Norewgian, the Yugoslav, the Greek and other wartime militants that the Third Reich get out and their occupation network be dismantled. Or the ANC with its core demand: No overlords. The Boers and Nazis labelled these activists as terrorists and predators but thankfully, in their blind arrogance, they lost even though for a time it didn't seem possible.

The solution for Palestine, whether one state or two states, is everybody born there to be included as an equal and no Übermenschen/Untermenschen chosen on race or religion. The bleats of being "hated" or "anti-ed" from anyone who wouldn't countenance equality of people in the land of their birth are not worth any consideration.

Reading through the comments on this thread convinces me that each human has several screws loose such that logical conclusions about any topic can never be reached.

Each person is filled with divergent views which have not been arrived at via careful, logical, reflection and discussion. Instead we have myriad viewpoints, attitudes, confused feelings, etc, which cover the whole spectrum of colors that exist in our mixed-up world.

We try to flog our intellects so as to try to make sense of it all, the confusion that surrounds us, the clamor, the hatred and small-mindedness, the horror of wars which, like perpetual motion, envelope us and consume us.

Now we have people saying that Russia is to be lauded and the U.S. must be condemned for its attempts to gain control of the world while pretending to be on the side of truth and justice.

We are surrounded by lies and liars. The MSM has become the tool of wealthy men and rich corporations. The man in the street continues to be shafted by the capitalist predators and by political parties that represent no one, only the carpetbaggers and the greed merchants.

The Churches, rich beyond comprehension, are filled with pedophiles who pray upon kids who have little enough anyway. Clerics promise life ever after to the gullible knowing that that it is a gigantic scam.

Each war is called the war to end all wars by those who are making huge profits to say nothing of the enslavement of the poor who are trafficed for sex and all manner of sexual depravity.

Our world is a sick place. Humans are at war with themselves and each other.

The advent of nuclear war may bring an end to the madness of humans but don't hold your breath.

Extinction may become our only saviour.

EJ,

Hamas executes more of its own civilians than it kills Israelis, mostly for belonging to Fatah an opposition party. Not forgetting its execution of minority groups.

If Hamas had any consideration for those it was supposedly representing, it would not constantly attack Israel whose justifiable response include blockading Gaza and striking back at those attacking it.

Hamas is more like a criminal enterprise than a resistance.

Each bunch of supremacists and its hangers-on bangs on incessantly about episodic atrocities ascribed to its rival bunch. People of good will get inadvertently diverted by these ain't-it-awfuls. The victims of these atrocities are the decent, non-supremacist, people of Palestine both inside and outside the Zionist enclave. And of course also the decent, non-supremacist people of the rest of the world who are fed up with attempts to corral them into supporting or including in their own culture racist or theocratic supremacist claims.

The circuit-breaker is to focus on what is wrong with supremacism and how to press for an enforceable two state or one state or other solution that acknowledges only human beings born in Palestine (in or out of enclave) and secures their right to live free of rule by self-proclaimed God-chosen supremacists of any stripe to whose overlordship they do not wish to submit.

Two states means separate but equal - and the "but equal" part has to be established as a mandatory condition of any solution. Who will baulk at that?

So EJ you consider Hamas, BDS supporters and the UN as supremacists?

Hamas attacks, Israel responds. The difference is that Israel is trying not to kill civilians.