Well you can still hear yourself think, which is just not the case adjacent to modern coal fired steam turbines, or diesels, which arguably have many more adverse health consequences for those living within earshot, or downwind!

And given enough reliable wind, more than compete with coal!

Me, I believe there's a good case for using some of the Tasman islands as wind farms, given the roaring forties and lack of affected or dense populations?

Even so, renewable sources terminology, ought to be replaced by carbon free alternatives; a few of which would cost less than half the cost of coal-fired power!

And therefore ought to also be on the table for some of these taxpayer funds?

Geothermal might be worth investigating as a source of already preheated water for a solar thermal application.

Solar thermal now competes with coal fired power as peak load or on infrastructure cost, given scales of economy, and new heat retaining technology! And beats the pants of it in terms of fuel costs!

Huge northern tides could operate new hydro schemes, particularly if they had a decent way of storing the energy, given the lack of activity at the bottom or top of the tide.

And we have yet to tap into steady currents like the east coast current that flows all the way to tassie.

Even so, there ought to be a requirement to make a best possible economic case, when lined up beside all other forms of carbon free or carbon neutral energy options; a couple of which kill Ole King Coal!?
Rhrosty.

Peter Lang doesn't mind saying that economics is more important than noise and human health. Oh, he tries to make amends when challenged by Y, but too late and not convincingly.

The fact that he had to ask the Senator why he concentrated on the noise aspect, and not the economics, when the Senator was clearly concerned about approaches on the health aspects of turbines, speaks volumes about Peter Lang and other environmentalists, turbine rent seekers and politicians. They have one track minds and little socialisation. Their 'progressive' minds have no space for humanity.

ttbn, Peter Lang isn't an environmentalist, turbine rent seeker or politician, so your statement that his question speaks volumes about Peter Lang and other environmentalists, turbine rent seekers and politicians is FALSE.

Many people have dismissed the health impact of wind turbines as an example of the nocebo effect. I'm glad the evidence otherwise is finally being seriously considered. Nevertheless, in the vast majority of situations there are no health impacts, and I remain strongly in favour of wind turbines.

Noise is a very significant and undervalued consideration
My snoring for example most definetely caused tension in my marriage
And if it wasn't for all the moaning, I don't think my wife would ever have found me in bed with her sister.

Now if these small noises in our homes can have such devastating consequences
God knows what these giant turbines could do

//Many people have dismissed the health impact of wind turbines as an example of the nocebo effect. I'm glad the evidence otherwise is finally being seriously considered.//

Infrasound is produced from all sorts of sources besides wind turbines. Diesel engines, for example. I drive a diesel. Why have we never heard about this threat to health until wind turbines started popping up?

Toni Travis,

Who, apart from you, has made your claim about other sources of infrasound. I wonder why the almost manic proponents of windmills haven't jumped on that one! You don't say that you drive a diesel, 'therefore I know' about this', you just announce that you drive a diesel. Could be a cunning way of not having to prove what you say.

One does not have to be a total cynic to wonder where are your references to back up a hitherto unheard claim.