The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Carter causes consternation with election call for Palestinian Arabs > Comments

Carter causes consternation with election call for Palestinian Arabs : Comments

By David Singer, published 11/5/2015

No Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) elections have been held in over a decade - even though Abbas's term in office as President expired in January 2009.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All
Well, if Pacifists like Jimmy, would just stop trying to impose their so called standards (corporate ideals) on all others, perhaps the principle players could just negotiate something that works for them!

And among those things, perhaps there's a place for much enlarged world wide commercial boycotts, that stop the flow of money into Israel, and or, allows the continuing annexing of Palestinian land by emigrating American Jews and others, with totally inflexible minds and or positions.

Or asinine assertions supported only by fundamentally flawed false fables; and all that supports the new settlements on what remains patently purloined Palestinian land!

And the only (Jewish gerrymander) strategy available to Nethenhayu, to maintain a larger Jewish voting majority in Israel, and through it, personal power!

Perhaps Jimmy would achieve more if he had the testicular fortitude to advocate a withdrawal of all American support for what now occurs there, in the name of a so called democratic Israel!?

Perhaps then Israel would finally act and do what's required to finally settle their differences with the other players, and all that prevents a two state solution and peace in our time!?

If Israel's superior strength could just be harnessed to defeat ISIL, rather than decades old disagreements; perhaps they could be the stabilizing influence and strange bedfellow friend to all those who desire peace, prosperity, stability and genuine democracy in the Middle East, as shown by the Arab Spring!

All the west and Israel seem to offer at this point is more of the same unpalatable interference or impossible juxtaposition?

One leads by example, not headmaster style lecturing; and America is not the shining example or new world Camelot it was when visionaries and genuine statesmen, like JFK, strove mightily for a better world and a better deal with all those they shared it with.

Now all that seems to occur is at the whim and caprice of American corporations and their desire to gobble up everything and everybody; and indeed, impose the lowest common denominator!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:10:39 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Jimmy de Peanut Carter's "Elder" status certainly doesn't = wisdom.

Problem is countries full of gun toting young-bloods don't take to democratic elections too well.

Perhaps a gun hand-in-buy-back scheme might be the most useful program the UN ever funded.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:57:14 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Some love Israel, some hate it, but why does the author so bitterly hates the poor kingdom of Jordan?

In 1967, the Jordanian people, by the skin of their teeth got rid of that 'Drek' (Yiddish) called the "West Bank" before its inhabitants were to take over and destroy Jordan itself, yet the author insists that they should re-swallow what they already vomited.

If someone must take control of that cursed territory (to stop Hamas and the like), then why particularly impoverished Jordan of 196 countries in the world? Why not some bigger and stronger nation that can carry the burden more easily, say China?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 11 May 2015 1:58:18 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
#Rhosty, #plantaganet,#Yuyutsu

Really amazing to read that none of you is even remotely concerned that the Arab populations of the West Bank and Gaza are denied any say in their future - having been muzzled for the last ten years by those tyrannical despots Hamas and the PLO whose policies have wreaked havoc on their lives.

I don't know where you live but would you tolerate living in a society where your President was in the eleventh year of a four year term of office - where your Prime Minister has ruled in part of your homeland for ten years and an unelected opponent who seized power in the remainder of that territory refuse to go to elections?

You enjoy the freedom to express your views, to criticise who and what you want,to read a free and independent and to vote in fair and free elections at regular intervals. So do I

Why don't you advocate for the Palestinian Arabs to have the same rights as you and I enjoy?
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 2:28:42 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Begging authors can't be choosers David :)
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 3:15:56 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Democracy and Islam ?
Surely they are contradictory ?
Human rights are a fundamental part of democracy so the Islamic
countries refused to sign the UN human rights treaty.
The rights of women could not be accepted by Islamic countries, also
they could not accept other fundamental rights so they drew up their
own treaty. Strangely the UN puts Islamic delegates onto
the UN human rights commission.

The presence of Islamic delegates corrupts any decisions of the commission.

When it finally gets through the thick sculls of the politicians that
the enemy is in our midst they must accept that we are at war.
Ultimately, at least in the "west" me must treat Muslims like enemy
citizens were treated during the war. German civilians who were in
Australia at the start of the war were interned for the duration.

There is a simple test for any resident of Australia;
Do you accept the Australian constitution is paramount ?
Do you accept that Australian law precedes Sharia Law ?

A moslem cannot accept those propositions with yes.
A clause in the Koran permits them to lie in answer to those questions.
Which raises an interesting legal point;
Australian courts allow an oath to be taken on the Koran.
Can such an oath be acceptable when that very book has a clause
allowing Moslems to lie to non believers and does not recognise infidel courts?

So where does that leave us ? It needs an executive decision !

In a related news item;
Norway is currently expelling some thousands of moslems.
Their patience has been exhausted because Oslo has become the rape
capital of Europe.
Since they started expelling them the crime rate has fallen 30%.

I understand the above is shocking to the usual culprits but acting
soon will be better than waiting for civil war.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 4:10:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear David,

I don't know how the [so-called] Palestinians can be helped with their internal problems, thus I was silent on that issue. All I commented about was your cruel suggestion to throw the problem on the poor Jordanians, an impoverished nation which already hosts over a million Syrian refugees.

Australia is certainly bigger and richer than Jordan, so how would you feel if I suggested that Australia accepts the West Bank as a new Australian state/territory?

Have you noticed and wondered why even Israel, despite all historical claims and except for Eastern Jerusalem, refuses to annex the West Bank?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 4:16:19 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hi Bazz

Checkout what Tassie's special intellectual, Jacqui Lambie, says about https://youtu.be/ZignPUwvvPU?t=1m30s :

- prison camps
- Sharia Law, and
- Ban the "barker" (sic)
________________________________________________

Hi Yuyutsu

Re the idea "how would you feel if I suggested that Australia accepts the West Bank as a new Australian state/territory?"

If Australia wanted to quadruple the size of security agencies and the army, impose national service on male and female non-Muslims and have all sorts of ex-soldiers toting submachine guns Australia wide, that might be a good idea.

Regards

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 4:30:32 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy