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The secret country again wages war on its own people : Comments

By John Pilger, published 27/4/2015

Aboriginal people are to be driven from homelands where their communities have lived for thousands of years.

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Yep, it's up. A huge job, 339,000 words. Enjoy !

I suppose when you are sitting somewhere in London, you can spin all sorts of fantasies. Of course, nobody is going to 'driven' off tiny 'communities, of five or six people. People have been coming and going to and from such 'communities' for years now, as they wish. My understanding is that, at any time, maybe half of the smallest 'communities - across Australia - are empty. Some have been empty for years.

A community (originally of 120 people) where I lived for some years was abandoned after the CDEP program there - allowing people on the dole there never to have to look for work - was scrapped. Last time I was there a couple of years ago, there was one, maybe two, families living there. A vast almond plantation there was dead, uncared for, unwatered.

I suspect that another fair-sized community further north has also been abandoned.

The jig may soon be up for the notion of people never having to work a day in their lives: that, no matter how remote one may be, either they look for work or they forego dole payments. he ghastly problem is that, because people have now had nearly fifty years of lifelong leisure, nobody knows what work actually is, and what skills one may need. As a direct consequence, nobody knows what education might be for either - if lifelong leisure, why education ?

So what pathways need to be developed to help people begin the long road to work ? Of course, being on their own country, they could always return to hunting and gathering, but that's not really likely, even with 4WDs and rifles, it palls after a while. Manual jobs ? Yes, of course, like so many other people.

Welcome to the world !

Joe
www.firstsources.info
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 27 April 2015 10:51:41 AM
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Don't be so silly Bernie, you don't make treaties with people you have defeated, who have surrendered. Them you dictate to.

You only make treaties with those it is proving very costly to defeat. Then the treaty is to get as much as possible for as little possible.

Making a treaty with a rabble is impossible.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 27 April 2015 11:28:55 AM
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John Pilger hates his own country and fellow countrymen so much that he cannot even bear to live here. The fact that he is so eaten away by his hatred shows in the fact that he stills spends time venting his bile from the other side of the word. I suppose we shoul feel pity for him.

The current loafers existing (who could call it living) on the lands in question have not been their for 'thousands of years'; they are merely the descendents of people who first lived thousands of years ago. Given the lifestyle of the current occupiers, there could be have been nobody living their for more than two generations.

Allowing them to stay put as one case revealed today (an island community of 800 people costing the rest of us $68,000 per person per year) is no different from allowing white bludgers to stay on the dole just because their families have spent two or three generations on the dole.

"Aboriginal leaders (who) have warned of "a new generation of displaced people" and "cultural genocide" are unlikely to be leaders any sense of the word, are talking absolute rubbish to keep their own noses in the public trough.

These people and the likes of John Pilger are the ones actually promoting apartheid.

As for 'genocide', if Austalian politicians had any fortitude, they would sue Pilger for libel. If certain non-white, non-Australian groups were accused of genocide, he sky would fall in.
The 'stolen' generation (however Pilger's fevered imagination links that to the current situation) has been done and dusted, and is not worth talking about anymore.

Still, I suppose the long, drawn out tirades against his own kind will continue until the day of Pilger's death or infirmity; and Curmudgeon is right - we should ingnore the poor, deluded fellow.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:37:30 PM
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Joe,

"If there is a word for someone who refuses to change his prejudices, no matter what evidence one offers, and who keeps coming up with unbased assertions, I suppose that word is 'bigot'."

No, well yes, but John Pilger, to give him his due, has added to the English language,

"Pilgerism: a baseless and bigoted statement masquerading as fact."
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:52:22 PM
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John, I've only read the opening paragraph as it appears to be just another load of garbage once again playing the usual victim race card.

Nobody is forcing anybody to leave their homeland as you put it, Tony Abbott is rightfully saying that if they wish to stay there, then by all means do so, but notnon the public tit they have become so accustomed to.

Nothing wrong with that.

Furthermore, their own previous generations of elders would be humiliated to think their offspring, rather than providing for themselves, have become reliant on welfare. It would be like the elders of the past sealing from other peaceful tribes, it's just no on.

In fact, I would go one further and suggest the parents of these people should think carefully before bringing children into a world with little or no chance to prosper.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 27 April 2015 1:03:46 PM
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I strongly disagree with John Pilger's article - in my view his claims and views are absolute BS and reflect a personality in deep denial. On the positive side however, I note that in no way am I surprised, as everything I have ever read of his seems to me to be almost the complete opposite to the prevailing real world situation.
Posted by Pliny of Perth, Monday, 27 April 2015 2:02:55 PM
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