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The Armenian Genocide. Lest we forget. : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 21/4/2015

Twenty-five years before Nazi Germany’s leadership met in Wannsee to “solve” Europe’s Jewish problem, the Final Solution to the Armenian Question was put into practice in 1915.

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That “blame” manifested in horrific carnage by the IRA against innocent civilians. I know because on several occasions, I and my family came very close to extinction at the hands of the IRA.

It came close to home when the IRA converted Lord Mountbatten and two of his grandchildren to “flying mince” in Ireland.

I had seven AK47 bullet holes in my car after a short trip down the Falls Road in Belfast. I left the Golden Egg Restaurant on Oxford Street, London, with my wife and daughter only minutes before an IRA bomb killed six and horrifically maimed twelve beautiful children.

We were also visiting the Tower of London as tourists when a bomb made from high explosives and nails exploded in the Armory. Protected by a concrete pillar we sustained only temporary percussion injuries. The vision of children, parents and teachers being “shredded” by the explosion has scared us all for life.

Don’t tell me about your distorted version of history as mitigation for something you never experienced but instead rely on as fact rather than folk lore. When you have held all that is left of someone’s beautiful child in your arms as life ebbs away and their eyes ask you the question, then you can “whine” about how badly history treated you.

After 40 plus years my wife and family live with the reality that people like you seek to pervert as ideology in some sort of justification. I still wake at night with the face of a small child in my hands, so damaged and unable to speak but with pleading eyes, I cry a lot, I look at my own grandchildren and cannot avoid relating to similar tragedies.

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Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 4:09:38 PM
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You Rhrosty, need to hold someone’s baby in your arms, as their life drains over your hands whilst their dying parents look on. Then perhaps, you will stop playing the “Irish” victim and recognize that life is all about perspectives, right or wrong, it is your responsibility to balance reality with fiction.

Why not, countless children have made that sacrifice for you. Isn’t it time you recognized the contribution that the children of others have made for your freedom?

I do hope you have children or even grandchildren, I hope you look into their perfect eyes and kiss them good night, I also hope you ask yourself the question, “who made this possible for me?”

Lots of love and heartbreak,
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 4:11:09 PM
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Spindoc,

Like Rhosty you are just a wee bit on the side of erroneous, particularly with your observation on potato blight.
The blight struck Europe, the Scottish highlands and Ireland.

See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Potato_Failure

Rhosty,

The Black and Tans were in Ireland for two years, from 1920 to 1922 and though their crimes were many they definitely never attempted genocide and at the most murdered less than 200 civilians.
Tis said that they were not the worst of a bad bunch, the real criminals were safe at Westminster doing their parliamentary duties.

See:http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/patrickroberts/black-and-tans-were-not-so-bad-says-new-book-savagery-in-irish-war-of-independence-on-all-sides-128656678-238100801.html

I too am of Irish descent and can trace my ancestry in that country back to Brian Boru and further, through his mother, into the great family of the O'Flaithbheartaigh and thence into legend.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 5:01:34 PM
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Spindoc,

"It came close to home when the IRA converted Lord Mountbatten and two of his grandchildren to “flying mince” in Ireland."

Which grandchildren?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 5:06:24 PM
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‘morning Is Mise,

Sometimes one has to wonder at the ignorance, lack of information and willingness to research facts within the OLO community.

You my dear person (more on this later), exhibit some of the most profound social disorders ever displayed on OLO. You could have done your own research, you could have validated the facts I presented, and you could have avoided the embarrassment of being wrong, but no, you chose to challenge them at great expense to your personal credibility.

You choose, out of pure, unmitigated ignorance, to ignore the vast preponderance of evidence, to pick on a minor challenge by asking the question, “Which grandchildren”?

Just in case you still don’t get the message, those murdered by the IRA in this instance were Lord Mountbatten, the Queens Cousin and the One of the earl's twin grandsons, Nicholas, 14, and Paul Maxwell, 15, a local employed as a boat boy, also died in the explosion”

You have become without doubt, one of the best examples of the inhibitors of social progress in this country, not because you are ignorant of historical facts, not because you are unwilling to check for yourself, not because you refuse to embrace reality and not because you are blinded by your ideology, but because you can never accept, in spite of overwhelming contrary evidence, that you might just be wrong!

Suck it up Princess!

The expression “Princess” is entirely dependent upon your own pre-disposition to embrace a non sexist imprimatur that implies a feminist alter ego based upon the premise that some might conclude an inference to a non gender specific status that is contradicted by the perspective created as an actual gender specific personification?

Which in my book has you as a fully qualified AC/DC exhibit. You could prove me wrong?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/27/newsid_2511000/2511545.stm
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 6:13:47 PM
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Spindoc,

Only one of the children was a grandchild of Lord Louis, was the other lad, the commoner not worth mentioning in your earlier post?

The tragedies over the centuries in Ireland could have been avoided had not the Norman-English initiated the trouble in the first place.
Had my ancestor Henry II not accepted the invitation of another ancestor Dairmid Mac Murrough to come to Ireland and assist him then there may have been peace (Daimid is known in Ireland as 'The First Traitor').
In more modern days England could have insisted on British Democracy being practiced in the Occupied Territory known as Northern Ireland, instead Britain allowed the dictatorship of the Orange Order, allowed bigotry to rule.
We all know the consequences.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 7:47:36 PM
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