Hi markjohnconley,

No, not necessarily, BUT there can be a huge overlap: we only have to note Constance's slide from one to the other above.

Vice versa, I'm sure many Israeli people support the rights of Palestinians to their own state IF they abandon any threat to push Israelis into the sea and IF they recognise the right of Israel to be a sovereign state. But IF no authoritative Palestinian body does that, then the only alternative is to fight back when attacked, and to hold onto what they already have. Fair enough.

As for seizing territory (if you were thinking of suggesting that), that really is a bit rich, given that Arabs and Muslims - let's be honest - have, for 1350 years, made an art-form out of invasion and expulsion, out of the central-eastern Arabian deserts right across north Africa, central Asia, south Asia and south-eastern Europe. That doesn't justify anybody doing it, but let's not get too precious.

Yes, the fact that Israelis have taken back their homeland (and little beyond that without provocation) is a poke in the eye for expansionist Islamism of all sorts, and a blow to world-wide Salafist domination in particular. That alone gets my total support.

Joe

G’day o sung wu,

How did I forget the freako Freemasons. My father was once a policeman and told me about the secret handshakes. I know you’re an ex copper. And the Gnomes of Zurich. The Lizard King Rothschilds control them and the masons. The lizards are originally from Frankfurt and that’s where the “Frankfurt (Jew) School” evangelised and spread to the West.

Loudmouth,

The psychopathic Zionists want to push us into the sea. You never did answer my question asking you if you believed in freedom? What I recall is you came back with some obscure Jewish intellectual. As you jump from ideology to another as an ex Marxist in your Jewish family household. I know you know something and you didn't tell me anything about the Babylonian Talmud. I'm told written version created in 400AD (what!)

You mentioned one day that a Jew invented the Pill. They also invented Feminism and the sexual revolution. And satanic symbolism in the music industry. Admitted by Rockefeller. Population control anyone? of the Whites. And do we not have a family breakdown problem in the West, and disinterest of marriage? They are the managers and producers, agitators and revolutionaries. Found three interesting Jewish writers admitting all this. And as for abortions, The Talmud says that a 9 month foetus is allowed to be aborted. I’ve found stuff on a court case in the Middle Ages about a Jew sacrificing Christian children in the middle ages. So history just continues repeating itself. I know the Rabbis do this weird sucking of blood on the child at circumcisions.

Metzitzah b'peh is a homosexual-paedophile practice carried out in Talmudic Judaism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Metzitzah_b%27peh
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Herpes-Infant-New-York-City-Circumcision-Jewish-Ritual-Oral-Suction-Orthodox-268327522.html

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Constance,

You've convinced me; I have an in-grown toenail on my right big toe.
I wondered why as I've always been very careful of my feet (comes of being ex-infantry) but I now realize that I can blame the Jews.

The Freemasons is just a fraternal society.

From a time when ordinary men went to work, raised their families and if they were not not part of the booze and betting set, were all but friendless outside of work. Most men lead moral lives then and now. Maybe those were the 'mens' sheds back when and continued. -Not saying that fraternal societies are irrelevant now either.

Where there is no restriction apart from needing to be male (fraternal after all) and of good character, it is hard to see how they could be up to anything other than enjoying the company of men living similar responsible, respectable and boring lives. They do charity work. Nothing exciting there I would think. They may have their 'secrets', but they are definitely not a secret society.

More like an excuse to get out of the house once a month.

Lol Is Mise, I liked your comment!
I was just thinking that if the Jews really gave us the Pill, feminism and the sexual revolution, then we have more to thank them for than I realised......

OTB,

There was once a man going through a country train asking if anyone was a Catholic Priest or a Freemason, one passenger asked him why and the answer was that he and his mates had lost their bottle opener.