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By Jed Lea-Henry, published 6/3/2015When someone attacks us, our first instinct is to think that we must have brought it on ourselves, that we must have done something provocative.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 8 March 2015 4:56:08 PM
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What choice do people have except to blame themselves when we are sold lies and propaganda and are never told the whole truth?
As for your final argument that ‘we must be careful when we arrest radicalised young men, lest we end up creating more radicalised young men'. This IMO was the exact argument NSW police had when they allowed the Sydney seige to continue instead of shooting the guy with the sniper they had in the Channel 7 across the road. Why did they not just call in the military? Leaving the people in more danger as the seige progressed, simply because they feared inflaming the Muslims and creating further terrorism. It doesn't matter anyway because the police ended up killing hostage/s themselves anyway. And please remember that if you are going to write a huge article, that we only get 350 words with which to respond to the topics you're putting across. None of your comparisons were really valid, and I didnt have enough room to respond to all your arguments. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 8 March 2015 5:02:13 PM
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Yebiga,
The Cherokee stories are mostly myth, the "Trail Of Tears" occurred as a result of the corruption of their own elders, histrionic White authors like Dee Brown are responsible for much misinformation. The Oglala and Hunkpapa actually were violent savages who oppressed and enslaved many of the other tribes,that's why it wasn't hard for the vastly outnumbered Whites to recruit Shoshone and Crow warriors to fight against the plains tribes. The White "Army" of the wars of 1876 was barely a regiment, 2500 men who faced about 7000 Sioux, Cheyenne and Arapaho and, as we know fared badly. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 9 March 2015 5:26:19 AM
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It is pleasing to hear that the Brits are waking up to the threat.
The war was declared 1400 years ago when Mohommad started attacking his neighbours for not accepting Islam. The Jews of course were the most reluctant because they already had their Monotheistic God. This war was declared on all ifidels unless they submit. Well, now that Australia exists that declaration of war now extends to us. The Government should declare that a state of war exists between ISIS, Al Querida and any other Islamic terrorist organisation that puts its head up. Having done that then the laws of war mean that all enemy aliens can either be interned or repatriated. Those born here can be charged with treason and given the option of being shot or repatriated to a country that will accept them. Now I am aware that my proposal will absolutely horrify the trendies, greens, the human rights lobby and the Islamic excusers. However it has long precedence and is legal in time of war. Does anyone seriously deny that there is a war going on and agents of the enemy combatants are operating in this country ? Ater all Australian forces are attacking enemy forces ! A declaration of war clarifies everything. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 9 March 2015 12:33:24 PM
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A well written article Jed. One I agree with entirely.
I have noted that people like Yegiba etc, have deflected the arguement immediately with rubbish that has nothing to do with the article. It’s a well used tactic by Islamic Secularphiles. Deflect, avoid, change the subject, bring in unrelated arguement, refer to our past ignore their own. Above all, never, never answer the question. This is an example of what Islam eventually has in planned for Australia. http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2388.htm. & you know it. YEBIGA me ol’ mate. We haven’t finished the conversation on whether the Sun goes around the Earth or the Earth goes around the Sun. Why did you duck out? Find out the truth, didja? Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 1:18:39 PM
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Robert Newman's "History of Oil" has an interesting thesis about the West's relationship with the Middle East since WW1. He argues WW1 was the first of many invasions/wars of Iraq etc. It goes some way to explain why/how the West asked for it. The US, Brits, Australians etc are not innocent bystanders or even altruistic actors in this seemingly endless conflict in the Middle East.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DCwafIntj0 Posted by BJelly, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 4:48:37 PM
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However...
Of course its not right to sexually violote a woman on the basis of the clothes she was wearing or the way she was acting.
But if a woman puts herself in a situation where she is acting inappropriately then sometimes these kinds of things happen.
Say for instance a beautiful young half drunk and drugged out big-mouthed 19 year old woman was teasing a half drunk male adult with known mental issues and a history of violent sexual assault.. Teasing him, exposing herself, and saying "You want this? Well you cant have this, because you're a dirty old pathetic loser"
Would she have asked for it then?
Some might suggest she may have, at least in some small way.
So I disagree with you that "No mitigation could ever diminish the crime" on the comparison you made.
Deliberately inciting provocation towards the people of a religion who are known to defend the honour of their prophet is something completely different altogether.
But its a bogus artificially created war based on propaganda and lies with the purpose of taking down Iran and Russia.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13931216000838
Iran is a military threat to Israel, and Russia is a threat to the Petrodollar.
As for the rise of Islamic State being our fault for liberating Iraq, lets not forget that we were sold that war on the basis of WMD's, (which the US has routinely used in the past) and there weren't any.
Lets also not forget that it occurred under George Bush Jnr who's father failed in the first Gulf war in Iraq and occurred directly after 9/11 to which Iraq was not implicated.
That war against Saddam Hussein occurred because of a threat to the Petrodollar, just as taking out Gaddafi and destroying Libya also was, just as is happening now with Russia.
And btw, the thing the sets alarm bells ringing for me with the Charlie Hebdo possible false flag attack is that the Rothschild family purchased that magazine 1 month before the attack occurred.