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Villification of the religious by the religious : Comments

By Vic Alhadeff, published 4/3/2015

Imagine if a religious leader stood on the streets of Sydney and openly called for the murder of people of another faith. It happened recently, and barely a word of condemnation was heard.

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Posted by Cody, Thursday, 5 March 2015 11:33:54 AM
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'Now, compare that incident to the one in Sydney where a Muslim organisation openly calls for Muslims everywhere to kill Jews, and that Judgement day can never happen until all Jews are dead'

about sums it up Lego however secularism is to close to Islam for them to see it.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 5 March 2015 12:36:10 PM
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Hi folks,

Our LEGO wrote;

“When asked by an audience member what should be done about Muslims he said "pray" and that Muslims "should be loved." This was enough to get the Victorian EOC to swing into action and prosecute the Catch the Fire ministry for inciting racial hatred.”

Which of course is the usual crap dished up from this bloke.

After reviewing the transcript this is what the tribunal found Pastor Scott actually said;

“Muslims lie for the sake of Islam and that it is "all right", they have to hide the truth “

“People do study for six to seven years they become true Muslims. And we call them terrorists, but they are true Muslim; they have read the Qur’an, they have understood it and now they are practising it, that is the connection between the Qur’an and terrorism”

“Muslims intend to take over Australia and declare it an Islamic nation “

“That Muslims are taught that children should obey their parents, but if the parents are not Muslim, then children have a responsibility to mistreat them and to deal with them harshly, so when you are true Muslim, as you know David Hicks, you have heard of him, now he has responsibility to do that because he is true Muslim. So when true Muslim, you have to destroy your relative and so on, so that’s the commandment of Allah, you cannot just ignore it “

"That Muslims derive money from drugs, so they make a lot of money and they can spread Islam and fulfil their desire"

“That Muslims in Australia double their population in less than seven years. They are growing because they control the Immigration Department”.

This is vilification and incitement to hatred, not 'prayers and love'. Very little separates this from the hate speech at Lakemba.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 5 March 2015 10:23:07 PM
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SteeleRedux,

sounds truthful not vilification.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 5 March 2015 10:52:58 PM
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The question isn't really whether Islam is compatible with Western values, it is but there are doubts about whether it's viable in the West and the long term viability of the Western project itself.
You can't really blame Muslims for not wanting to integrate into systems which are failing and societies which are in decline.
For example if Western welfare programs are no longer sustainable then the Islamic diaspora will become unsustainable because on average between 70-80% of Muslims rely on handouts to survive in Western countries.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 6 March 2015 7:11:47 AM
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