Hi SR,

I don't think the author indicated in any way that all Muslims were responsible for the atrocities in Nigeria, Niger, Cameroun, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, southern Thailand, France, or wherever. Straw man argument. But how far was he off the mark ?

As for you dreary recycling of the 'two wrongs make a right' argument, with respect, Bosnia yes, but you have forgotten Kosovo, where an entire population was driven over icy mountains - I still remember that bloke pushing his mother in a wheelbarrow - and I also remember, at the time, my 'Left' friends dithering about whether or not anybody should support the Kosovars - and all those refugees who Howard brought out straight away from the area - because after all, the US was supporting the Kosovars, and 'therefore' shouldn't we be supporting the Serb fascists ?

Jut as they dithered about supporting the East Timorese against the brutal Indonesian army - because the US seemed to be supporting the East Timorese, 'therefore' shouldn't the 'Left' be supporting the authoritarians - yet again ?

So, Steele Redux, where were you in 1999, when the Kosovars were forced to flee over winter mountains ? Where were you when the Indonesian army was rampaging through East Timor ?

Did you do 'the right thing' then and support the people, or did you suck up to the state terrorists, which is what they were ?

Joe

Steele,
No doubt the toll from the Boko Haram raids is greatly exaggerated, just like the Bosnian "Genocide', there were no "rape camps" or "concentration camps in Bosnia. You're talking about the Srebrenica massacres which, like most atrocity stories is a distortion of the truth by Western activist-journalists and politicians for political purposes:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-srebrenica-massacre-was-a-gigantic-political-fraud/5321388
Similarly the eyewitness accounts from Nigeria talking about running through the bush over a trail of dead bodies stretching for miles is implausible.
This video shows how a hoax is perpetuated, the makers of the documentary in question started with a a fraudulent conclusion based on hearsay and unreliable eyewitnesses and went to ridiculous extremes to make their research fit the narrative, including fabricating the discovery of a "mass grave":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs

Oh dear, JKJ, a variant on the schoolyard favourite 'I know you are but what am I?' (you may prefer the term 'false onus').

My reasoning is clear, has been stated and has been supported. On the other hand, you have tried to play silly buggers, no doubt following the old wisdom of sticking with what you're good at.

Wars are almost never about abstract notions, they are almost always about territory, group power and control of resources. On the other hand, they are often justified with all sorts of gobbledegook.

If you prefer gobbledegook to reality, far be it from me to disabuse you.

Jay Of Melbourne

I'm not an expert on the groups that you mentioned, but as far as I know the ones you mention didn't create violence in the name of a religion, thus excusing their crimes as an act under sanction by some Deity. There is no exclusivity in connecting religion with violence. It just that religions often seem to absolve themselves of any guilt because it is "written" somewhere. I don't remember the IRA rationalising their actions in the name of Catholicism either, but historically they did together with most other religions you could mention.

@Steelerux

Who cries <<Whaaaa what about Bosnia>>

There have been thousands of similar or worse atrocities perpetuated by Muslims against non-Muslims, across the globe, and for centuries ..pity you dont want to know about!

Hot off the presses.
Prominent North Korean defector Shin Dong Hyuk recants.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/prominent-north-korean-defector-shin-dong-hyuk-recants-20150119-12t3te.html
People lie about atrocities and atrocious treatment at the hands of unpopular regimes all the time, it's more than likely that when someone is talking about massacres or mass rapes and incarceration then they're lying or "sexing up" their story.
Islam gets a bad rap, much of it undeserved but to equate it to Christianity, or to insinuate that the very real and ongoing wars and civil disturbances caused by Mohammedans has to bee seen in the light of some broad problems with religion generally is just nonsense.

The other issue is the fact that "Muslim" and "Christian" are just handy euphemisms for "Oriental" and "Occidental", "West Asian" and "European". The problem here is the dishonesty in talking about 21st century Europe as being Christian, there are supposedly about 800 million practising Christians in the world, only about 1/5 of them are Europeans, as I said before most Christians live in Asia and Latin America.
There is a problem with having West Asian people in European societies, it's a bad idea for so many reasons and it's going to result in violence not seen since our grandparents were young people but their religion is way down on the list of grievances.