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The Paris killings: who are the real heroes of press freedom? : Comments

By Jamil Flores, published 15/1/2015

But I can’t say, 'I am Charlie Hebdo.' That would be a travesty of the work of Steven Sotloff and James Foley, the journalists beheaded last year by the Islamic State.

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Erdogan the Turkish leader says the West was behind the Charlie Hebdo attacks.http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/14/turkish-president-says-the-unsayable-west-is-behind-charlie-hebdo-false-flag-attacks/

See some hard evidence. http://stormcloudsgathering.com/charlie-hebdo-shootings-censored-video
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 16 January 2015 5:29:28 AM
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@ Arjay

<<Erdogan the Turkish leader says the West was behind the Charlie Hebdo >>

No big surprise. Erdogan --like a couple of others on an earlier thread -- holds firm to the position that Islam can do no wrong.

He also no doubt believes the Armenian genocides are a Western concoction and the crusades were an evil invasion of a peace loving Muslim community.
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 16 January 2015 6:29:06 AM
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Hal,

Yes, that was my point: that there are already laws against incitement to violence, and anti-defamation laws against slander and libel. I believe truth is a defence against slander, or it should be.

As for slandering a psychopath, here's one:

Aisha goes in to see Muhammad, dressed in little fairy wings and with a suicide vest strapped around her waist.

Mohammad says, "What are you dressed as ?"

She replies, "I'm your blow-up sex-toy."

Busted myself !

Yes, CH pushed the boundaries of free speech, but I don't see that they ever incited violence. Ridicule of outmoded ideas, and of the mind-set which exposes the incapacity to discuss, criticise or modify any of those outmoded beliefs, but not incitement. Perhaps you can give examples ?

Totalitarians of the world unite, ay, Hal ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 16 January 2015 7:26:40 AM
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Crowie,
The people at Charlie Hebdo weren't morons but the European elite are hypocrites, the successors of the people who hanged Julius Streicher now defend Charlie Hebdo? Seriously?

THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING TOLERABLE: Thoughts on the shooting in France and multicultural stupidity
http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-importance-of-being-tolerable.html
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 16 January 2015 7:27:38 AM
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Es Brennt - Megaherz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw5i-TVjTMg
It's Burning

Afraid of the truth
Fear of (making a bad) appearance
Everything is too large
All is so comfortless

Fear of the insanity
That has reawakened
The fiery zealotry
that has been rekindled

All is too bright
All is too fast

Too high the horse
On which we’re sitting
Too deadly the poison
In harmless points

Too small is our courage
Too big is the yearning
Too hard is the fight
So easy the flight

So lazy of mind
Too weak of will
We silence ourselves
dead silence

Because no wall protects us
Because all the talk doesn’t do anything
When a people is resigned
And a former power reasserts itself

The East is burning
Tell me don’t you see
the fire front on the horizon
The East is burning
Our land of plenty
is burned
it burns

Fear of Freedom
Fear of duty
above all, what is strange
Fear of renunciation

Too rotten is the wood
in the ruins
Too powerful the desire
To serve the lie

No fortress protect
If everything is useless talk
When a nation shuts up
And bows down to barbarians

The East is burning
Tell me you do not see
the fire front on the horizon
The East is burning
Our land of plenty
is burned
it burns

The East is here
The East is us

The East is burning
(The East is here)
The East is burning
(The East we are)
Tell me you do not see
the fire front on the horizon
The East is burning
(The East is here)
The East is burning
(The East we are)
Our land of plenty
is burned
it burns
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 16 January 2015 11:31:01 AM
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