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The Paris killings: who are the real heroes of press freedom? : Comments

By Jamil Flores, published 15/1/2015

But I canít say, 'I am Charlie Hebdo.' That would be a travesty of the work of Steven Sotloff and James Foley, the journalists beheaded last year by the Islamic State.

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For those who can read French:

http://www.les-crises.fr/indecense-rendons-hommage-a-charlie/.
Posted by George, Thursday, 15 January 2015 9:09:28 AM
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There's no freedom of speech in Europe unless you're a Leftist or a Liberal, the EU has even more restrictive libel and "hate speech" laws than Australia it's just that they're selectively applied and publications like Charlie Hebdo get a free pass because of their Leftist sympathies.
I think we've only seen one person, Brendan O'Connell actually jailed for speech crimes in Australia, in Europe there are dozens of political prisoners in jail for speech crimes and politically incorrect people are fined, dismissed from their jobs and harassed by the state all the time.
France has the Gayssot Act, as fine a piece of Communist thought crime legislation as has ever been written;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayssot_Act
Politicians like Holland, Angela Merkel,Stefan Lofven and Helle Thorning-Schmidt only care about suppressing political opposition to their programs, they don't give a damn about democracy, free speech or human rights.
Europe's political elite aren't scared by Islamic activism but they're terrified of PEGIDA, FN, The Sweden Democrats and the Danish People's Party, they're outraged and humiliated when "far right" activists mobilise but an Al Qaeda massacre can always be spun into a display of superficial tolerance and be used as a bridge building exercise, albeit a bridge that goes nowhere and which will never be finished.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 15 January 2015 9:35:32 AM
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To foster a "culture of encounter" and not spread malicious slander - that is a freedom of the press, a freedom of speech, worth marching for.
As another commentator cautioned in a recent thread, sit not with the mockers.
The link posted by George above can be translated by Google and is well worth a read.
Posted by halduell, Thursday, 15 January 2015 9:54:51 AM
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This article is silly.

"there should be laws that would teach it to respect the rights and sensibilities of others." this is the crux of the matter, and the author is wrong.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:05:30 AM
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Threats to book stores in Belgium.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/bookstores-selling-charlie-hebdo-sent-warning-letters/6018032
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:09:23 AM
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Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

I think the Pope wearing a condom would be ironic given he more than anyone is against birth control, particularly in those extremely poor Catholic communities that can'afford the kids they having now, or sometimes, any! In any event, a lifetime of celibacy would have surely resulted in erectile dysfunction, and therefore, rendered the depiction actually impossible!

And women are just not mindless incubators!

I think anyone who understands irony sees a social message in such depictions.

Yes it might be very rude and disrespectful; but sometimes that is what it takes to make a truly unwelcome social message penetrate absolutely closed minds!

Celibacy is entirely unnatural and against God,s Law, to go forth and multiply; and a must for those who purport to believe in such things.

Therefore, there is irony in such pornographic images as nuns masturbating; as opposed to going slowly mad?.

I don't believe anyone truly secure in their belief system is upset to the point of violence at such messages, which for all practical purposes can remain unread!

And therefore, not be upsetting.

Those who find such things amusing, minus the social message have very small minds, and therefore, hardly a real problem for the mainstream.

The problem here, as far as I can see, is the complete intolerance in Islam and that violence is sanctioned in their belief systems, none of which are ever examined!

Which possibly the cartoonists were trying to encourage; particularly where nothing else has done so!?

After all, an unexamined life is hardly worth living, and in that context, an unexamined belief system is hardly worth following; certainly not to the point of blind obedience!

Nor is peaceful cohabitation possible with such people, who believe in violence as the first answer; and along with lying to infidels, is proscribed in entirely inflexible religious law; and therefore, really should be asked, to go back where you came from.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 15 January 2015 12:04:12 PM
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