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What should Christian worship look like? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 7/1/2015

The question this essay addresses is whether there is a form of worship that is more faithful to the gospel than any other.

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'Nice' as this article is I feel that it is not going to help the 'great unwashed' to view Christianity as something that they, in their rags, scruffy beards, tattoos, bikie culture, prostitution 'earthiness' may wish to investigate. The nice ABC religious policy appears to encapsulate 'show a 10 second bite of a Christian service at Christmas, Easter of a 'cultured' Roman Catholic, Anglican, or Greek Orthodox service. Modern Pentecostal Christians are so far to the radical left - a bit like radical John the Baptist and the other radical One 'whose sandals who he was not even fit to carry' - [even if they are the fastest growing segment of Christians in Australia] - that to show anything of their services with their Spirit-led worship styles with drums, electric and acoustic guitar, electronic keyboards and 'shock, horror' modern songs of praise and worship is obviously something that must not be broadcast.
I was indoctrinated in the Anglican Church while in a Boys' Home and still can recite and sing the rituals but then these meant absolutely nothing to me or my wretched companions who were thrashed if we dared 'step out of line'.

“Clap your hands, all you nations; shout to God with cries of joy.” In this instance, both clapping and shouting out joyful worship to God are urged. In 1 Timothy 2:8, we read, “I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.” The emphasis of this verse is the attitude of the heart; however, we see that lifting hands is an appropriate posture for prayer and worship. Having these biblical precedents, we can safely conclude that both of those expressions can be an act of worship.

“The trumpeters and singers joined in unison, accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the LORD and the temple was filled with a cloud” (2 Chronicles 5:13). Worship is a spiritual event, and true worship comes from the heart. If our worship is not heartfelt, it doesn’t matter what posture or expression of worship we use.
Posted by Citizens Initiated Action, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 9:17:02 AM
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According to Matthew 6.6 (and other references) prayer is something that should be done in private and the arena-style "happy-clapping" events draw upon the power of the crowd to create a mood.

I personally see the ornate dress and ritual as a distraction at best and no different from the Aztecs or witch doctors - as if "the magic" won't work unless it's done "exactly right" so as not to hurt God's feelings.

Apparently God is in need of constant reassurance for some reason.

It would be better to direct your energies to living a better life than hiding behind window dressing.
Posted by wobbles, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 10:25:57 AM
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What should Christian worship look like?

Well, how about the kindness of strangers, like those who left their employment and or business occupations, to muck in tirelessly and help those who lost so much or everything, during our most recent and most serious in living memory, floods.

One is not a christian because he or she reads some selected books, or selected passages from said books; or ponds a pulpit; but in the manner with which they live their lives in relation to all others!

But as helpers when needed, not serial pests or busybodies when not!
Simply put, one can't bear witness to something they've never actually seen or done; however pious, but are completely reliant on words on paper, that may be true or not!

Faith may move mountains, but actual evidence is what is needed to foster it!

And increasingly hard to find in a hearsay based document, revised and reedited to the point, where none of the modern day versions bear any resemblance whatsoever, to the oldest known versions; which were written far too many years after the event, to be considered reliable evidence, let alone bear witness!

Let your heart and your conscience be your guide; and live it in your deeds and actions; not what neighbors or strangers/serial pests knocking on the door may think!

The altar of Christian sacrifice is not to be found inside any church wall, but rather in the face of a hungry mum, going without so her kids can eat; or a medic, running into fire, to help a wounded mate; or just someone digging deeply into the purse, to find the bus fare home, for a perfect stranger in need of help; or a disabled man, nonetheless going to the rescue of a kid caught in a rip and swept out to sea!

And not one of them expecting or asking for kudos or thanks, for having done what any other genuine Christian would have surely done; or seen as their Christian duty!?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 11:05:48 AM
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wobbles, where does it state in the christian bible that God needs constant reassurance?
According to - http://religion.answers.wikia.com/wiki/How_often_do_Christians_pray

There is no set time, it is up to each christian to make that decision.
However, I do agree on Matthew 6.6 about praying in private and not making a drama about it in the outside world so you can impress others.

An another note, with regards to the OP, and this goes for ANY discussion about anything to do with Christianity, lets not forget about the fact that the dead sea scrolls found in the 1940s are only recently accessible because of the internet today > http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a023.html
There is also, the notion of other "lost books" of the bible > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Books_of_the_Bible_and_the_Forgotten_Books_of_Eden

Unless one has spent a LOT of time studying these ancient texts, no one is really in a position to question any content found in today's translations of the christian bible, at least with any degree of accuracy.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, in fact I expect this dilemma of missing parts would apply to all faiths today which rely on a source book such as like the Christian bible in Christianity.
Posted by Rojama, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 12:16:00 PM
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I think Peter is right to say that theological coherence is important in worship, but perhaps a bit too narrow in where that takes him. The silence of a Quaker meeting in an unadorned hall can be as theologically coherent and compelling as a high mass in a cathedral. So, too, the energy and commitment of a Pentecostal service, whose theology takes seriously the idea that the spirit is at work in and through its people (though their style of worship is not to my taste).

The problems with too strong a focus on aesthetics in worship are twofold. Firstly, it can reduce the congregation to passive spectators of a performance by expert clergy and musicians. Liturgy is the “work of the people”, and if ordinary folk are let loose on the readings, prayers and music then the result will often be less than sublime. Secondly, it can become a form of idolatry. The problem with some Anglo-Catholic services is that the clergy are a little too fond of the accoutrements, theatre and fancy dress. Symbols are important, but we seriously miss the point if we mistake the symbol for the thing to which it points.

Rhosty also makes a good point about behaviour and community. It matters how we treat people. “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another”, said Jesus. Not by the songs you sing or the clothes you wear.
Posted by Rhian, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 4:06:46 PM
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Rhian,
Noted. It seems to me that it is strange that we feel free to ignore the central command of Jesus to "Do this in memory of me". The Eucharist is instituted in Paul and the synoptic gospels and is central to the believer's relationship to Jesus in John. It is obvious that worship cannot be anything that takes our fancy or makes us feel good.
Posted by Sells, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 4:17:19 PM
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