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No contraception, no dole : Comments

By Gary Johns, published 31/12/2014

If a person's sole source of income is the taxpayer, the person, as a condition of benefit, must have contraception. No contraception, no benefit.

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For goodness sake you people don' t any of you realise that penis and vagina means kids unless contraception is used, means handouts by Governments, don't lay on your back and have all and sundry mount you by irresponsible men, whose only thought is to get their rocks off, say "no" for a change and tell that man to go to the shower and do his bit there, far better down the drain than some child born to be brought up by people who couldn't care a stuff about their upbringing and relying on the taxpayer to do it for you
Handouts by Government were not available in the 1950's and 60's,the pill was not around then,and condoms were the order of the day, we planned our children to fit within our means, not on taxpayer support, unwanted pregnancies did unfortunately end up for adoption, or the family looked after the baby, not the taxpayer, we survived, so bleeding hearts get in the real world, lay on your back and get poked then what happens next is your worry and yours only, not mine with my taxes
Posted by Ojnab, Thursday, 1 January 2015 9:43:50 AM
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Yuyutsu,

Careful there, such straight thinking could spoil someone's day!
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 1 January 2015 9:44:30 AM
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I like the idea of a restricted special debit card, that can't be used to make cash withdrawals, (drug money) buy tobacco or alcohol products!
And a computer program could be designed to light up with the repetitive purchase of durable goods, which could be resold in order to produce drug money cash flows?

And of course one can expect the humbuggers/deadbeat dads/alcoholic brothers, in-laws and "cousins" to come out in force at this exclusive debit card; and even play the race card in order to try to kill this highly meritorious idea, before it becomes standard practice in every post code poverty trap!

And where possible, Garnishee deadbeat dads' wages and or benefits; before they see a single cent, to help subsidize childcare payments.

If deadbeat dads had to pay for the kids they help produce, there'd likely be a good deal more of them using easy contraception, or even just relying on Lady Palmer and her five daughters, for healthy sexual relief?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 1 January 2015 9:47:51 AM
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halduell,

There are myriad ethical questions involved in this proposal.

For instance, what if you're a poor practicing Catholic?

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/birth-control

Would conscientious objection on religious grounds be applicable?

What are the ethical considerations in decreeing that in order to receive welfare, a person - presumably of female gender - must medicate - ie, introduce a foreign substance into their bodies in order to receive welfare?
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 1 January 2015 10:51:39 AM
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Poirot, whilst practising Catholics are forbidden to use contraception, they are also forbidden to commit adultery ie sex outside marriage. If they can commit one sin I'm sure they can commit another with a clear conscience.
In response to those who raise the issue of trading food purchased on a Basic card, for cash, well it's obvious you guys don't live in a high welfare area like I do.
If everyone received their centrelink money on a cashless debit card, in high welfare areas there wouldn't be enough workers with no social conscience to swap with.
Certainly most workers would refuse to engage in this practise, with the exception of family members. However there are only so many groceries one can consume and once you reach your weekly requirement other family members will be rejected when they ask the favour.
Posted by Big Nana, Thursday, 1 January 2015 11:37:03 AM
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Get the old. Pope to look after all the babies,to poor people, that would include nearly all of South America he then may change his tune, me thinks on contraception,
Posted by Ojnab, Thursday, 1 January 2015 11:53:13 AM
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