AC: The ultimate goal is a one world government, and the US is just a tool to achieve this and must also eventually be destroyed.

Well if we are going to have a One World Government by the West or Zionism it would still be a Trillion times better than a One World Caliphate anytime. Ay.

MEH: “Zionism has corrupted everything it touched,

& You would replace it with Islam, I suppose? WTF. You talk about Corrupt, Let's start with Halal Certification, moslem charities & a world of continual murder in the name of allah. Sounds like Paradise. Ay.

Jayb

"Well if we are going to have a One World Government by the West or Zionism it would still be a Trillion times better than a One World Caliphate anytime. Ay."

Interesting question.
I've got to say you've cornered me with that, and it feels like a feces sandwich.
Thats my code word for politics and democracy.

Say you are offered a feces sandwich cut in half.
And someone pats you on the back and says
"Hey dont worry, you get to choose which half of the feces sandwich you'd like to eat."
That's democracy. Its about having to choose when both sides lack appeal.
And whatever choice you make you are going to have to eat you know what.

There's many many pros and cons on both sides to your question.

And without going into details, I'd take the easy way out and say that if we have time up our sleeves to have a say or determine the outcome of the new world order then I choose neither.

If there is to be an eventual one world government (Its inevitable)

Then all I care about is freedom, liberty and equality for everyone.
(This includes Jews/Zionists, members of the Vatican, Royalty, Oligarchs and the elite.)
I'm not prejudiced in any way on this.

I believe that people have the right to live however they choose, but when someone does something that affects someone else in an adverse manner - then somethings gotta change.

I don't want a Master class and a Slave class.

Respecting peoples right to choose whatever religion they want.
- A persons spirituality is between them and their god.

Respecting borders and ethnic nationalities and keeping multiculturalism to a minimum to reduce conflict between people.
Not dividing people against each other and creating wars as a political tool to forward an agenda by the ruling class.

Mutual respect between people and taking real responsibility for yourself and your family.

Using technology to empower us not imprison us.

AC: Say you are offered a feces sandwich cut in half.

The Proper term is "$hit Sandwich."

You have me a little confused here. Are you saying that the Sandwich is Democracy in one half & Zionism in the other half or Democracy/Zionism in one half & the Caliphate in the other.

I take it that you are an old Commo from way back & I have to remind you that it was a great theory that just didn't & still doesn't work. I just don't understand why they would murder more of their own people then they did killed by the Germans in WW2 in the name of freedom?

AC: Then all I care about is freedom, liberty and equality for everyone.

I can't see you getting this with a Caliphate. Can you? The similarity between the Caliphate & Communism is zilch. Either you toe the given line, "In toto" or, "Off with their head!"

AC: Respecting peoples right to choose whatever religion they want.

Or none at all. Well that's something that wouldn't happen under a Caliphate. Ay. & With Communism.. Siberia if you did have a Religion.

Come to think of it Democracy/Zionism is looking better all the time. Do you think it really matters if Zionism is the World Bankers. At least they have to keep the money flowing to everyone if they want the System to work. I can't see them letting the workers fall into 16th Century poverty that would defeat the very purpose of the OWO.

On the other hand, with a Caliphate the World would fall back into the Dark Ages. with Ultra Rich Sultanates & peasants as in most Islamic Countries nowadays.

Hello Jayb,

No, my feces sandwich metaphor has nothing to do with Zionism.
Its just about the two party system of politics in general (In our country Labor and Liberal) and of having two major parties that both lack appeal, and of having choice but of having no party to really support (as both are halves of the same feces sandwich) and of having to choose the lesser evil.

And no, I'm not for Communism.
I've read a little about the Cheka and NKVD and I certainly don't wish for that.
I'd like to add the link to the Cheka murder room in Kiev but I cant find it atm.
Horrific stuff, and I think best not to discuss it on here considering what I am about to say next.

I don't want to come across as racist against the Jewish people, because I do believe in freedom and liberty for everyone, and I don't like to think my criticism of Israel is unfair. I am however somewhat skeptical about the true nature of Zionism, just as others are skeptical of Islam.

Karl Marx and Freidriech Engels (both Jewish) issued 'The Communist Manifesto' in 1848.
Marx was descended from a long line of Rabbis who were so-called "Talmudic scholars." This is the source from which his communist philosophy springs. The Talmud preaches a tribal form of socialism with ownership of property to be controlled by elders of the community. This is the basis of the Kibbutz communes in Israel. The Talmud also preaches that members of the Jewish race are superior to all other races. It says that Jews rightfully own all the wealth of the Gentiles and should dominate them.

Socialism and Communism started in Soviet Russia with the actions of Leon Trotsky, funded by Jacob Schiff, an American banker (both Jews). There is also the execution of the Russian Imperial Romanov family, Tsa Nicholas II, his wife and 5 children.
Soviet Russia was predominantly governed by Bolshevik Jews.
(So they weren't actually murdering their own people, the Jews were murdering Christians - up to 66 million of them)

So no, I'm not going to get freedom, liberty and equality for everyone with either Communism or an Islamic caliphate (taken on face value - Islamic extremism included).
Although I don't advocate socialism or Communism, I will say that Stalin's Communism was Marxism at the barrel of a gun, from what I understand.

I must say however I'm not convinced as yet that Islam on its own is as bad as what it is, though I'm not sure. (I have seen the videos of extremists throwing people off buildings and beheadings and the sexual mutilations of thousands of women so I'm not completely ignorant if I don't seem outraged at Islam) It is supposed to be a religion of tolerance from what I know, but I am not a Muslim and don't know a real lot about it. I was raised Christian.
I do know that Jews are about Usury (interest) where Islam supports a free market, Gold and silver as real money and no interest on loans, but other than that I am sketchy on details of Islam and the Koran.
I must add though that to say that Islam preaches that non-Muslims should be killed, well it also says things in the bible that would not be acceptable in today's society.
Killing homosexuals and such.

But Western political interests and the Islamic extremism funded by the west is a different thing altogether. I hold the same level of disgust and repulsion to this IS terrorism as any other normal person does.

But I will say however that I do in many ways hold US foreign policy to blame for the mess, as much and if not more than I do average well meaning or good Muslims themselves, but would never take a side that any form of terrorism is justified because of this belief.