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Torture report confirms team Bush war crimes : Comments

By Marjorie Cohn, published 17/12/2014

Reading the 499-page torture report just released by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was a disgusting experience.

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Muslims shoot schoolgirls in the face for daring to go to school. They attack schools and shoot the teachers and male students, and abduct the girls for sex slaves. They stone women to death and punish women who get raped, usually by murdering them. They force young women to marry, and kill them if they refuse. Muslim men are renowned for even "marrying" under age female children and some Muslim cultures practice female circumcision. Muslims murder any Muslim who rejects their religion and tries to adopt another, and that is official in every form of Sharia Law. They refuse to accept any criticism of their religion and make it known that they will kill anybody who dares to do it.

But who is Marjorie Cohn worried about? The Americans of course.

During World War Two, Australian soldiers shot every wounded and helpless Jap soldier they captured on the Kokoda Track. The reason why our men broke the rules of war was because they were realistic and they understood that the Japanese had no intention of obeying any rules themselves. The Japanese were a sadistic enemy who had no compunction in committing mass murder on any civilians they captured. They even raped and murdered captured allied nurses.

Allied soldiers routinely killed every Jap they could find. We machined gunned survivors from sunken Jap ships, we machined gunned lifeboats, we firebombed and atom bombed their cities, killing their civilians by the hundreds of thousands. It was total war.

Once again we are fighting another enemy who engages in every form of barbarity to promote their evil religion, and Marjorie thinks it is terrible that we don't fight fair. Torturing terrorists who openly state their intention to mass murder our civilians, in order to force the terrorists to talk, is exactly the right thing to do.

It is too bad that Marjorie was not in the Lindt café in Sydney on Monday because she might have received a reality check.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 18 December 2014 3:10:30 AM
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Bush was so wrong that Nobel Peace Prize winner, Obama continued his policies, most notably at Guantanamo. Call that torture, try short back and sides with a blunt, rusty knife or prepubescent sex slavery (and or slaughter).
Posted by McCackie, Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:00:45 AM
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Bush,Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were found guilty of wars crimes in 2012 at a tribunal in Kuala Lumpur. They now have to be careful which countries they traverse. The noose is tightening.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 19 December 2014 6:17:01 PM
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Thanks for having the courage to write this article. It clearly shows that not all the bad guys are on the same side. The law should treat everyone the same but does not always have the means to do so, especially when it comes to punishing the soldiers on the side which is winning the battle.
Posted by askari, Monday, 22 December 2014 10:42:14 PM
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If moral and ethical notions aren't enough of an argument against torture, maybe practical ones will.

Torture does not achieve the objective it is supposed to. It does not give interrogators the truth.

What torture provides is the information torturers want to hear.

Time and time again, it has been shown innocent people will say whatever it takes to stop torture. Those who have information may or may not give it up, or may give slightly wrong information, which can lead to false leads or implicate innocent individuals.

Torture is however a handy way of breaking people, and controlling people through fear - another form of terrorism really.

Torture damages not only those who have been tortured, but also those who do the torturing. What must it do to someone who has been ordered to humiliate, maim or injure people who have been rendered defenseless? Some of the things the CIA etc have done are sick and truly perverse - there is no honour in this.

If the interrogators weren't sick before they did some of the stuff they did, they would be afterwards. No one could do what they have done and come out unscathed.
Posted by BJelly, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 12:54:47 PM
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