Killarney,

You've got 350.

So, you're saying that, because the Yanks, twenty five and thirty years ago, funded all manner of anti-socialist rag-tag groups, some of which later evolved into Islamo-fascist groups, whatever they do now must be condemned ?

So groups which bitterly opposed equal rights for women should now be supported, or at least not condemned, they're not so bad ? After all, they're anti-American ? Is that the way the logic goes ?

Afghanistan belongs to its women, as much as to its men. It's their country. I'd far rather see the Islamo-fascists driven out, perhaps to Saudi Arabia, than innocent women. The war against Islamo-fascism must go on, until victory. You can quote me.

Joe

There is NO war against Islamo-fascism.

Surely the ISIS farce has exposed that particular propaganda hoax by now. Here we have US-Nato fighting WITH ISIS in Syria and AGAINST ISIS in Iraq.

And then there is Libya, where US-Nato fought WITH Al Qaeda - its number one enemy in the war on terror.

And the West's best buddy in the ME (other than Israel) is a country that is so Islamo-fundamentalist, it won't even let women drive or leave the house without their husband's permission.

Confused? You should be.

The only real 'enemies' of the West today are those nations and/or ideologies that choose economic independence and reject global capitalism. What god they worship and how they treat their women is of absolutely no interest to the West, unless it can be used for propaganda purposes.

Killarney,

In what conceivable way is the democratic coalition fighting WITH ISIS in Syria ? By bombing its positions in Kobane ?

The coalition forces have an incredibly difficult and complex task, how to defend Iraq from ISIS, how to limit ISIS in Syria (and leave the fighting to Assad's forces where possible), how to support the Kurds, how to (behind the scenes) co-ordinate with Iran without pissing off the Saudis too much. In all of that, ISIS is the enemy. What on earth makes you think otherwise ?

That 'best buddy' that you talk about: do you mean Saudi Arabia ?

'Best buddy' ? I don't think either the Yanks or the Saudis are stupid enough to believe that (but keep believing it, Killarney): economically (i.e. manipulating the price of oil to undercut the US' booming CSG market), socially and politically, they are very distant 'friends'.

Anything else ?

Joe

Joe

Your 'explanations' about the ever so subtle nuances in why the US-Nato is fighting against ISIS 'here' and with ISIS 'there' are only confusing us all the more.

Maybe it would be more comprehensible for US-Nato to just fight AGAINST ISIS on alternate days of the week, and WITH ISIS every other day.

'i.e. manipulating the price of oil to undercut the US' booming CSG market'

Oh, come on, now. Do you honestly believe that the House of Saud are really standing up to the US? Camels will fly. The whole oil price thing is being orchestrated, with Saudi Arabia and US-Nato in cahoots - the real target being the economic destruction of Russia.

'Anything else?'

No, I don't think so. That'll be all thank you.

No, Killarney, the US-NATO coalition is not fighting with ISIS anywhere, don't twist my words. It's a silly trick which might work with teenagers but OLO is an adult site.

Yes, the Saudis are trying to undercut the US use of natural gas by flooding the market with their oil. Look at the current price of oil, which they can produce at $ 54 a barrel, while other producers are going broke having to sell at the current price.

The economic destruction of Russia ? By the Saudis or by the US ?

Anything else ? Didn't think so.

Joe

Killarney,

This post from Pickering: http://pickeringpost.com/story/the-saudis-well-oiled-chop-chop-square/4208

might be of use to you.

I'm puzzled by your insistence that the Coalition is somehow supporting ISIS in Syria. Are you assuming a simple either/or struggle between Assad and ISIS, with no complications ? No other parties involved, or having a deep interest in how it all turns out ? The Iranians, the Turks, the Saudis, not to mention the pathetically-weak 'democratic' forces against both ISIS and Assad; Hezbollah and the Israelis, Khorasan, al-Nusra and, on some reports, 1500 other groups within Syria ?

Wouldn't it be nice if it was just a matter of A against B ? Oh, for a simple world ! But, Killarney, it is not to be. What we are witnessing is a multitude of groups and countries with their own axes to grind in Syria, sometimes some of them collaborating, most usually fighting viciously against every other.

Hence the Coalition's differe3nt policies towards Syria on the one hand, and Iraq on the other. Hence their tacit co-ordination with Iran against ISIS in Iraq and limited involvement in Syria, except against ISIS and Khorasan, and mostly around Kobane in support of the Kurds.

Complicated world !

Joe