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Whitlam was a giant cut down in his prime : Comments

By Peter Coates, published 22/10/2014

An ordinary Labor Party and born to rule conservatives did Gough in.

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REVENGE TERRORISM IN CANADA?

One a different matter “New Comments” have been closed for my recent article “Are Australia's actions in Iraq boosting revenge terrorism?” http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16698

It’s a chicken and egg problem. Is ISIS’s overseas recruiting alone increasing terrorist threats in Australia or is the willingness of Australia to send troops and airstrikes to the ISIS Iraq-Syria region increasing the terrorist risk at home here?

This closely relates to last night’s events in Canada which have apparently caused the Prime Minister of Canada to agree with the concept and danger of Revenge Terrorism - see
“PM Harper says ‘terrorist’ launched attack in Ottawa, links event to war against ISIS” http://aptn.ca/news/2014/10/22/one-dead-parliament-hill-police-search-others/ It states in part:

“Harper linked the [terrorist attack in Canada’s capital Ottawa] to Canada’s military mission in Iraq to battle ISIS militants attempting to establish an Islamic caliphate in the region…Canada is sending CF-18 fighter jets to Iraq and is also currently supplying weapons to the Kurds battling ISIS.”

Those that have in the past publically agreed with the concept of Revenge Terrorism include the then heads of ASIO, AFP, MI5 and the White House Adviser for Counter-Terrorism – all this is at http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16698 .

Unlike AFP Commissioner Keelty in 2004 our security chiefs are publically reluctant to tell Abbott this. (7th paragraph http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16698 )

Basically the cost of Australia’s involvement in Iraq is not only the money and the risk to Australian soldiers but it may well be causing greater INSECURITY at home.

Canada assessed its risk of Islamic terrorism as low-medium before discussion of returning to Iraq occurred.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 23 October 2014 1:46:02 PM
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Pete if there is a terrorist attack on our soil, I'll be looking at intelligence agencies either within Aust or OS as the prime suspects. Real terrorists who want to harm our countries will hit key infrastructure and not the Twin towers that have passed their use by date.

I can think of many ways terrorists can harm our country seriously and yet in OS attacks have chosen not to. These are all indications of Govt false flag events.

If we go into Iraq with troops it will be just like Vietnam. Russia and perhaps China will arm groups like Isil to drive us deeper into economic malaise.

Russia has it's own problems with Muslim extremists which the USA finances. It's all a big game documented in Zibigniew Brezinskis' book The Grand Chessboard.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 24 October 2014 4:01:19 AM
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Hi Arjay

Yes despotic countries like Russia may use false-flag operations to justify the rule of the despot (Putin).

Ex Russian spy Alexander Litvenenko was killed by the Russians for pointing this out.

On Russian intelligence false-flag operations:

"Litvinenko alleged that agents from the (Russian security intelligence) FSB coordinated the 1999 Russian apartment bombings that killed more than 300 people, whereas Russian officials blamed the explosions on Islamic terrorists." see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko#Russian_apartment_bombings

So when looking at the pernicious false-flag operations of Russian intelligence some of what you suspect may be true - of Russia.

China's Mao also notoriously used the Long March in the 1920s to fatally bleed off 90% of his army (and many Party rivals) to strengthen his political power.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 24 October 2014 6:37:25 AM
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CORRECTION Mao's Long March was in the 1930s (October 1934–October 1935)

The bitter struggles of the Long March sealed the personal prestige of Mao. However the true role of Mao in the Long March remains disputed, with many claims that Mao's role was heavily exaggerated and certain events in the Long March entirely fabricated. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March .

I'd say boosting a civil war less for the people and more for personal power rates as "false flag".
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 24 October 2014 6:51:16 AM
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Returning to the tragedy in Ottawa, Canada.

A bit too much spin by way of official Canadian Parliamentary cheering for the traditional-security guy who "took down the shooter".

Australia is further from the US's gun culture (thank goodness) in that the cop who had to shoot the jihad guy in Melbourne wasn't gauchily cheered for doing something sad but necessary.

Background see http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-awakens-to-day-after-gunmans-rampage
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 24 October 2014 11:18:03 AM
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Pete Putin has a 70% approval rating. He is doing more for Russia than any of our puppet leaders.

If the BRICS allow member countries to create their own credit then I'm all the way with Vladmir Putin.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 24 October 2014 7:35:03 PM
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