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What exactly do 98% of climate researchers believe? : Comments

By Barry York, published 20/10/2014

Politicians, climate activists and influential Hollywood celebrities are misusing the 98% figure derived from studies to justify an alarmist point of view.

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David K, the science relating to climate change is that the human effect is trivial, and does not have a significance which would enable it to be scientifically noticed.

Abbot is acting accordingly.

If you are able to refer us to any science which shows any measurable effect of human emissions on climate, please give us the reference. Otherwise, you will understand why Abbot is right, and you are wrong
Posted by Leo Lane, Saturday, 25 October 2014 5:38:47 PM
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Leo Lane,

"Poirot, you must have noticed that, before he was elected, Abbot stated very clearly, what his objectives would be in government, if elected."

Lol!...very funny.

These ones you mean(verbatim):

""No cuts to education, no cuts to health, no change to pensions, no change to the GST and no cuts to the ABC or SBS."

And that's beside all the other "bits and pieces" he failed to tell us about before the election.

"He has reported to us, on the attainment of his stated objectives, as and when it has occurred, through his efforts, and the efforts of his government."

What kind of gobbledygook is that?

Why would DavidK bother to reply to you...whose standard response is to call people liars.

"Abbot is acting accordingly."

Abbott is a small-minded dill who is out of step with the rest of the world on this one...should be a hoot when it all comes home to roost.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 25 October 2014 6:05:26 PM
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P,

Actually Abbott has not made any cuts to the education or health budget. All he is doing is not matching Labor's promises to throw money at everything.

At least they met their core promises to scrap the carbon tax lie of Juliar's and the mining tax, to stop the boats and to repair the budget.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 25 October 2014 8:27:48 PM
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SM,

"Actually Abbott has not made any cuts to the education or health budget. All he is doing is not matching Labor's promises to throw money at everything."

Oh...those promises he's "not matching" would be part of the unity ticket the Abbott govt spruiked in the lead up to the election?

This unity ticket: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/coalition-joins-labors-gonski-unity-ticket/story-fn59niix-1226690519042

"THE Coalition has sought to reset the education debate for the looming federal election and outflank Labor by promising the same increase in school funding over the next four years without requiring state governments to increase their own budgets.

The announcement yesterday by Tony Abbott and education spokesman Christopher Pyne of a "unity ticket" on school funding with Kevin Rudd overturns their previous policy positions on Labor's funding reforms..."

Which - as we now know - was a bunch of BS to get them elected.

Oh, and...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/northern-beaches/premier-mike-baird-slams-cuts-to-health-and-education-funding-in-abbot-governments-federal-budget/story-fngr8hax-1226917317032

"PREMIER Mike Baird has accused the federal government of “outsourcing” its budget problems to state governments with cuts to health and education funding.

Oh, and...

The MP for Manly took a swing at his federal Liberal colleagues for slashing funding to the states for public hospitals and schools, which will equal $80 billion Australia-wide over the forward estimates in Tuesday night’s federal Budget."

So carbon tax and boats....how's that budget going?

You know, the one that was delivered way back in May.....and is still floating around in the ether....
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 25 October 2014 9:28:23 PM
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Poirot. The nonsense about cuts by Abbot has not been substantiated, and he says he has broken no election promise.
He has ridden us of the carbon tax, the mining tax, and is in the process of gaining passage of a budget forced on him by the depredations of the Labor vandals. Remember all your wrong predictions of Abbot's failure?
Now you are making more stupid predictions.
DavidK will not reply, because, like you, he has no answer. Do not make ridiculous excuses for him.
Posted by Leo Lane, Saturday, 25 October 2014 9:29:36 PM
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Hey, this is supposed to be about what the climate scientists believe !
It was settled that 98% of climate scientists believed a whole lot of different things
about climate when someone sat down and actually read what they wrote.

Face it, the 98% was a blatant lie.
They believed a whole range of things varying from being certain to having doubts
about the degree of effect of humans.

Anyway it does not matter whether the models are right or wrong it is the wrong argument!
There is not enough fossil fuel available that can be economically extracted
to cause the warming the models predict.

It is much more practical to argue about the way we can use the fossil fuels we have
to build the new renewable energy regime.
Mark my words if we do not use the high ERoEI fossil fuels to build the next
energy system, the ERoEI of renewable energy is not high enough to do the job.

If we fail that, we will be back in the 17th century hopefully.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 26 October 2014 12:35:53 AM
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