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What exactly do 98% of climate researchers believe? : Comments

By Barry York, published 20/10/2014

Politicians, climate activists and influential Hollywood celebrities are misusing the 98% figure derived from studies to justify an alarmist point of view.

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Leo Lane,

You don't post "the science". You post cherry-picked blurbs from your fave "skeptics".

Here's a summary of "geologist", Robert Carter...

"Bob Carter (Robert M. Carter), born 1942 (age 71–72), is a retired Australian marine geologist and a paid AGW denier. He is also an adjunct (unpaid[1]) Research Fellow at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University" in Australia,[2] and on the academic advisory council of the denialist front group, the Global Warming Policy Foundation.[3] Carter is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries (Exxon, Scaife Foundations and Koch Family Foundations, etc).

According to the Sydney Morning Herald in 2007, Carter was "on the research committee at the Institute of Public Affairs, a think tank that has received funding from oil and tobacco companies, and whose directors sit on the boards of companies in the fossil fuel sector" and believed, SMH said, that "the role of peer review in scientific literature was overstressed."

"Carter is Chief Science Advisor to the International Climate Science Coalition.....Carter is also an advisor on a number of other right wing and denialist "think-tanks" and groups the Institute for Public Affairs (Aus), The Galileo Movement (Aus), the Science and Public Policy Institute (US), the International Climate Science Coalition (US/Canada), the Australian Climate Science Coalition, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (UK) and Repeal the Act (UK).[7] He was a founding advisor to the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition. Carter is a founding member of the Australian Environment Foundation, a front group set up by the Institute of Public Affairs."

"Based on the science, Coleman is right."

You complained that I failed to address the "substance" of your quote from Coleman.

"Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming are a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam."

Tell me where the "substance" is in that load of vacuous blather?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:33:15 AM
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Sorry, omitted the link to that summary.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bob_Carter
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:35:17 AM
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So that readers are not misled by the nonsense posted by Poirot, I provide some accurate information on Robert Carter
“Professor Bob Carter is an Emeritus Fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA, Melbourne). He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist, environmental scientist and writer with more than 40 years professional experience, and holds degrees from the University of Otago (New Zealand) and the University of Cambridge (England). He has held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999.
Bob has wide experience in management and research administration, including service as Chair of the Earth Sciences Discipline Panel of the Australian Research Council, Chair of the national Marine Science and Technologies Committee, Director of the Australian Office of the Ocean Drilling Program, and Co-Chief Scientist on ODP Leg 181 (Southwest Pacific Gateways). He is currently Chief Science Advisor to the International Climate Science Coalition and an Emeritus Fellow of the Institute of Public Affairs.

Bob Carter contributes regular comment and opinion to media publications and to public debates on scientific issues which relate to his areas of knowledge; his articles have been published in Quadrant Magazine, The Australian, The Age, the Sydney Morning Herald, the Wellington Dominion Post, The Washington Times and the UK Sunday Telegraph. Bob also offers lecture or workshop presentations by arrangement. Bob's public commentaries draw on his knowledge of the scientific literature and a personal research publication recordof more than 100 papers in international science journals on topics which include taxonomic palaeontology, palaeoecology, the growth and form of the molluscan shell, New Zealand and Pacific geology, stratigraphic classification, sequence stratigraphy, sedimentology, the Great Barrier Reef, Quaternary geology, and sea-level and climate change.

Bob Carter's current research on climate change, sea-level change and stratigraphy is based on field studies of Cenozoic sediments (last 65 million years) from the Southwest Pacific region, especially the Great Barrier Reef and New Zealand, and includes the analysis of marine sediment cores collected during ODP Leg 181.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 1:02:26 PM
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Good grief Leo Lane, you do realise the 'graph' that Bob Carter relied on to state:

"However, our most accurate depiction of atmospheric temperature over the past 25 years comes from satellite measurements (see graph below) rather than from the ground thermometer record" and then "Once the effects of non-greenhouse warming (the El Niño phenomenon in the Pacific, for instance) and cooling (volcanic eruptions) events are discounted, these measurements indicate an absence of significant global warming since 1979..."

Is actually a graph of mid-troposphere temperatures?

For those not in the know, the mid-troposphere is the bit of the atmosphere 6 km above the Earth.

Now why would someone as supposedly expert as Bob Carter in climate science choose a mid-stratosphere data set to show that the temperature of the Earth is not warming?
Posted by Agronomist, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 1:22:51 PM
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Because Agronomist that is where the most warming is expected.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 2:40:59 PM
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Yes Agronomist, what a shame that NOAA deployed all that expensive satellite equipment in the wrong place to take the global temperature. I wonder why no-one thought to ask you where the readings should be taken.
NOAA have tried to make amends by lying about global warming and falsely asserting that it is happening, when their scientific readings show that it is not
“The political beauty about climate data is that it can be easily manipulated in order to fool the public.
The National Oceanic And Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) recently released its State of the Climate in 2012: Highlights. To no one’s surprise, the report gives the reader the impression that warming is galloping ahead out of control. But their data show just the opposite."
http://notrickszone.com/2013/08/07/noaa-confirms-model-defying-global-temperature-stagnation-2012-was-among-coolest-in-21st-century/
Stick with them, Agronomist. If they ever gain control of their act, they will be of great assistance to a dishonest AGW fraud-backer.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 10:03:38 PM
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