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Just another day on the streets for the homeless : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 16/10/2014

This week is anti-poverty week. For the homeless every week is poverty week.

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O Sung Wu obviously you like learning to kill someone as a must, I would most certainly hope that females be included in your conscription ideas. Surely you realise it does not teach how to cook or milk cows, only killing, happy learning to kill O Sung Wu.
Posted by Ojnab, Thursday, 16 October 2014 5:10:47 PM
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Hi there OJNAB...

No, I was actually thinking along the lines of teaching them all (both genders) some decent values, plenty of life skills and more importantly, some self-discipline. In a structured, organised environment similar to military training, 'without' the need to introduce them to weapons and tactical training.

By the way, I did six years in the Australian Regular Army, and I'm a Veteran.

Thank you for your response.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 16 October 2014 7:45:53 PM
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Rubbish Lyn, my wife deals with the long term unemployed in our district. Many of them are living in cars vans & camping in national parks, because it is cheap, & leaves more money for grog & tobacco.

They all get the dole, with out difficulty, all they need is a bank account. They have helped a few qualify for an account, when needed.

They have cleaned, clothed dozens of them, & found them work. A few, but very few grab the chance given to them, & some are now full members of our society, & doing well again. For all too many turning up for work every morning is not in their nature. They are soon back on the street, bludging.

Most of them know every lurk, & hand out going, & have no interest in becoming full time workers. Work is a dirty word to many of them. Yes many have mental problems, but for most they problem is they are just bone idle.

Many of these people threaten those trying to help them, & are often in trouble with the law because of their attitude.

Some people are worthless, & not worth the effort put into them. For any really wanting help, it is radially available.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:49:28 PM
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As a worker who routinely dodged the "homeless" and the panhandlers in the CBD of Sydney every day, I take issue with Lyn Bender's "there is something wrong with our capitalist society" undertone.

Two reasons reason why non socialist European derived societies are generally prosperous Lyn is because of our work ethic and our concept of personnel responsibility. It s the responsibility of every individual to look after themselves and become productive members of society. Those that choose to ignore that responsibility and engage in self destructive behaviour which leads to homelessness do not evince much sympathy.

The only mitigating circumstance is mental illness, which a JBowyer pointed out, is more an indictment on the "rights" industry than the actions of the general population.

And while you are at it, could you please explain why people like yourself see nothing wrong with the Australian government purchasing 746 houses and giving them to some of the 40,000 "refugees" who flooded into Australia under the Socialist Labor Party's mismanagement of Australian border protection? If there are 'deserving poor" in Australia, why do people like yourself support the idea of foreigners jumping the queue and getting the support we deny our own people?

One presumes that Lyn is another social worker who is touting for business. The more dysfunctional people in Australia, the better for Lyn and her social worker caste. The rest of us just have to come up with more money, more money, and even more money to "solve" social problems which were avoidable in the first place.

Buggin's rule of social workers is that "social problems increase in direct proportion to the number of social workers employed to alleviate them."
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 17 October 2014 3:31:06 AM
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Dr James Wright who acquired fame on the now defunct Midday show with Ray Martin is a wealthy man. He buys apartments and allows the poor to reside in them.
What a great role model for us all..I dream of winning the Lotto so I can do something for the homeless and I do feel that a country that creates both rich and poor should have a poor tax so some of the wealth is distributed to them..but that is wishful thinking..more Dr Wrights is what we need..doers not dreamers.
Posted by BOOMER, Friday, 17 October 2014 6:29:44 AM
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Dear Rhrosty,

I was not going to comment about this topic of homelessness at this point (because doing justice to it would require more of my time than I can afford at the moment), but I did skim over the comments and I am SHOCKED.

As a victim of conscription, all I can say is that there is nothing more cruel. many decades later I still have the occasional nightmare of being taken there again. Hunting down, kidnapping and jailing innocent boys and girls of 18, away from their loving family and helplessly placed for some years in the company of riff-raff, is the equivalent of prison (this is before even considering the horrors and dangers of war), except that my only "crime" was to be born where I was and reach the age of 18 in relative health.

Before immigrating to Australia, I made sure that there's no conscription here and was happy to be told by the Australian consul that it is in fact illegal in Australia. Otherwise I wouldn't come.

I was not a homeless to be saved - I lived with my parents and studied in university when I was taken away. If I could prevent it by going homeless so the army wouldn't find me at my parents' address, then I would rather do just that.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 October 2014 8:59:18 AM
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