While we are on the topic of abortion, this is an issue bigger than just being for or against it. I understand where the OP is coming from, every life is precious, but the problem is, the women that walks into an abortion clinic does not want the baby. Making abortion illegal can have negative consequences for that child. For instance, that 4year old kid in SA, don't tell me that child would have suffered more if the mother had an abortion.

On the free speech issue, should we also picket funerals of diggers to protest against the war ala Westboro Baptist or the Mardi Gras against gays? No, common decency suggest that isn't the time and place. Most of the women going to the clinics already have a lot to think about, they don't need people waving placards trying to shame them too.

Yuyutsu says my life is God given sorry Yuyutsu my life is the result of a sperm and egg meeting and so is yours, it has nothing to do with a fictitious God, do not tell me he was the one who made me an expert swimmer and drowned the rest trying desparatily to get to the prize, perhaps all those billions of other sperm were the creation of the fictitious devil and never stood a chance, how ridiculous is religion.

Dear Ojnab,

I have read this view of yours before and while I do not agree, for the purpose of this particular topic, suffice that we agree, as indeed we seem to, that you do not owe your life to the state and its government and that the good reason(s) for others to avoid killing you do not include some United-Nation's decree which proclaims that you have a "right" to live.

On a side issue, your seem to be quite outspoken when it comes to male identity and not minding the PC brigade you declare without hesitation that you are a sperm - your mother's ovum being what then? just food I presume...

Hi Arjay,

Nice to see you have a friend on OLO: the coming together of the dumb-dumb Left and the isolationist extreme-Right is produ ing some strange friendships, isn't it ?

You write,

"How did ISIS get so well armed and financed. Many suggest Israel and the USA created ISIS so they could go back in and secure Iraqi oil."

How ? Well, overrunning all the military bases around Mosul, and the air force base at Raqqa, might have helped. Raiding the Mosul banks of half a billion might have given them a boost, too.

But keep pushing the one about Israel setting up training bases for ISIS in the Negev: that might give the Israelis, ISIS and me all a good laugh.

And wouldn't it be easier, and cheaper, to simply buy the oil ?

Terrorists-as-puppets: an interesting concept.

And how come nobody ever blames the Swedes ? Clever b@stards, never leave the tiniest bit of evidence behind, to cover their tracks. They may be training ISIS fighters in the mountains for winter fighting, and who would even suspect them ? Devilishly cunning. No wonder nobody can connect the dots.

Just trying to help, Arjay :)

Joe

"Every Human Being Has the right to life

Is that statement correct?

Nature the greatest power on this planet doesn't think so.

Nature spontaneously aborts babies, it is called miscarriage.

Nature would kill a huge percentage of children in the first few
years of life without immunisation.

100years ago the life expectancy even in Western countries was
about 50-60years. That's if you managed to survive until 30years
or even 20years.
Without Pencillin a small scratch could kill you very quickly even today.

A right to life? Another man made delusion presented as fact.

Aray,
< How did Isis get so well armed and financed>

Friends in high Sunni Places, including quite large donations from
supporters in Western countries. Plus every town and business and
bank they conquer, the money goes straight into the pockets
of the revolutionaries-(Isis). ISIS is controlling the oil supplies
in Iraq now, the profits from that are probably flowing right
into their pockets also. I'd say they are as rich as King Midas
about now, well almost. That's the whole point of the fight to
control land and wealth, all that talk about religion is bulldust,
as it always is.
Also, if they had taken control of the main dam and water supply, before America stopped them from taking the dam,
imagine how they could have raised taxes from towns and people for
their water supply.
Big money can buy good weapons from lots of places in the world.

This is a major Sunni insurgence.
The Sunnis don't want to live under rule by the Shi-ites Tribes, who have the numbers in government, they want their own
state or country. It's that simple. If they have to use violent,
angry, men to seize back their country then who better to do it.
A bunch of pussycats.

I doubt that the Sunnis like some of
the more lunatic violence of Isis, but they do like the control of
a Sunni state or country being handed back to them by ISIS. At the
moment they fear persecution at the hands of Shi-ite militia
more than they do Isis. And down the track they can always deal
with those who are the biggest nutters in ISIS, after they have the country back in Sunni hands.

People who take land, country and resources, prosper and become
rich, that is what war is all about.