Ah, the chattering classes are well represented on OLO as are the Corporate, Corpulent Crooks.

I suppose that means that OLO is representative but it also means that it never achieves anything. The debates flow back and forth and, in most instances, nobody gives any ground. As well, the same arguments are floated over and over lest anyone be seriously challenged by something new or controversial.

Take the idea of beheading all gods for instance, getting rid of all religions.

What? Take 'Big Daddy Up There' out of the human equation? Humans, with their pedestrian small minds, just can't handle such an idea and those who flog religion or use religion to control the masses don't want folks to seriously question anything.

Debate is a good thing but not when no conclusions are ever reached!

Why expect anyone to change their opinions here, it's not what this place is about, surely?
I see this as an exchange of opinions, a discussion board, not a formal debate with winners and losers, though in truth we do have the odd one of those, don't we?
I feel we have four distinct groups here, overlapping a bit.
Left and Right of politics of course, and then we have the divide between those who would live in an Ideal world with love and feelies all round, and those who , like me, can admire Ideals but live with our feet firmly planted on the planet, we see the world for what it IS, not what we wish it was. Rose-coloured glasses are a fashion accessory, NOT a valid lifestyle!
We need our dreamers of course but that doesn't mean that all dreamers are automatically on the right course, far from it I'm afraid.

Ah, Bruce, are you honestly saying that our world is fine as it is, that the threat of nuclear war doesn't exist, that those who run the world (the Oligarchs, the billionaires, the corporations) are doing an acceptable job?

I don't know which world you live in, Bruce but it certainly doesn't accord with my experience of it. Our world is a cruel parody of what it could be and humans are to blame!

He who would denigrate the dreamers is no asset to the world, brings no alternatives or positives, and stands in the road of evolution.

Do you think we humans should always be little more than greedy, brutish beasts?

"Do you think we humans should always be little more than greedy, brutish beasts?"

Ah...but we have a sophisticated brain...and sophisticate methods of delivering our brutishness.

We're impressed by our sophistication...

Which is why the govt said nothing when Israel was recently blowing babies apart with gay abandon in Gaza...with sophisticated methods of delivering the slaughter.

Bu when dark ages beheadings of Westerners are splashed over the screen, we see human brutality in the raw.

Not sophisticated at all.

It revolts us to our core...but why is slaughter of innocents seemingly okay in one theatre and not in another?

Ah yes David G. enough love will fix anything.
Albeit, those who don't ever feel it, have it wasted on them, in a vain attempt to change outcomes.
Those who get the greatest addictive pleasure from pure evil, and complete domination in all areas, will never give it up, it's far too addictive for those who have already sold their souls to the devil, and now do his work here!
They are like a highly malignant cancer that must be removed, with extreme prejudice. Least it grows and infects/destroys the rest of the body/humankind!
Real love, as opposed to the airy fairy/cowards lament stuff, you seem to be promoting/advocating; includes the ultimate sacrifice of a comparative few, who gave all there was, so the rest of us could live in comparative freedom.
No greater love hath a man than he would lay down his life for another.
Never in the course of human history has so much been owed by so many to so few.
These indeed were our finest hours, and best examples of unconditional love!
Conversely, no amount of unconditional love, would have prevented the equally evil Nazi, from murdering six million non combatant Jews, Men, women and children!
Do you think maybe, those terrified women and children; some clutching tiny suckling infants to their breasts; could have prevented the genocide?
By dancing and singing, Har na nagila, or, Oh Lord Kumbyyar, as they entered the gas chambers, or perhaps, love is all you need; or, love is in the air, everywhere I look around?
What do you think, has turning the other cheek ever done anything but hasten the intended destruction?
Handed virtual carte blanche permission to the oppressor, sick evil doer?
Who always sees silence as consent! And all manner of extreme/unimaginable violence as (sick) entertainment!
Save the BS for those still fooled by it!
Rhrosty.

Rusty, you are a lost cause and, as I said elsewhere, an impediment to human evolution. Your programming is perfect.

Parrot-like, you repeat the Western Capitalistic Mantra over and over. There is never the slightest hint of originality or deep thought.

Your mind, always in neutral, never lets in any light!