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Are Australia's actions in Iraq boosting revenge terrorism? : Comments

By Peter Coates, published 19/9/2014

The Abbott Government's contention that Australia's return to Iraq will not increase the terrorism risk at home is dangerously contrived.

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Hi Jay Of Melbourne

Interesting ideas. But parents would have their work cut out even monitoring daily hopping across 100s of innocuous titled websites by an almost-adult-teenager on PC or laptop - let alone iPhone use. Due to the very specific nature of what might be considered harmful security-wise in teenager's internet usage security services are rightly doing much of the targeted monitoring.

Perhaps there is some security thinking behind some community programs already. I don't think average "educators and youth workers" can be blamed for not being security minded.

Unfortunately people like Murdoch effectively dictate local content rules because Abbott relies on Murdoch's support during Re-Election Time.
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@Albie Manton in Darwin

WTF are U talking about? Hawkey may have been a true rootrat but I think it was more Keating who populated Western Sydney.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 22 September 2014 6:00:23 PM
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Looks like the OLO article has triggered something:

Not only Bobble Head* Bill Shorten's laboured statement in Parliament today that there's no Australia in Iraq - terrorism at home link.

But also Crikey and the Guardian reporting today http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/sep/22/tony-abbott-to-deliver-a-national-security-update-politics-live :

"2.02pm AEST
One more worthy offering in the mix today which I neglected in the post before last, Crikey’s Bernard Keane is reporting that the AFP has been “gagged by the government from commenting on the link between prime minister Tony Abbott’s decision to return to war in Iraq and the increased terrorism threat.” Keane says the AFP has declined to answer specific questions on this subject, referring inquiries to Brandis’ department. That piece is paywalled.

"The context is Asio has said recently that Australia’s involvement in Iraq doesn’t increase the domestic national security threat risk. Experience from 2003 suggests otherwise. Former AFP head Mick Keelty dared to suggest a link between the two things in 2004 and was soundly slapped by the Howard government for his pains."

Note the similarity of the last para above with the OLO article.

* Bobble Head is where Abbott drives the car while Bobble Head Bill Shorten is that funny doll looking through the back window http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/One-Puppy-Dog-Beagle-Dog-Bobbing-Bobble-Head-Doll-Toy-/171091074309 .
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 22 September 2014 6:46:35 PM
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OLO’s anti-Muslims

If reports are true that New Zealand might adopt the Silver Fern Flag its time to be alert - maybe even alarmed. The flag is black with a silver fern that is shaped like a knife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_fern_flag .

Even more alarming would be the version designed by one Cameron Sanders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_fern_flag#mediaviewer/File:Silver_Fern_flag.svg

Will new New Zealand be known as Kiwistan?
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 22 September 2014 11:46:41 PM
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To OLO's Muslim apologists.

The subject of this topic is "will terrorism in Australia increase because of Australian intervention in Iraq?"

The answer is "yes."

The reason why terrorism in Australia will increase is because the overwhelming majority of the Muslims in Australia support one form of Muslim terror group or another. All Muslims must agree that Jihad is the way to go to attain a worldwide Muslim caliphate or else they are not really Muslims at all. It would be like a Ku Klux Klansmen saying that negroes were equal to whites, or Nazis saying that Jews are not an inferior race.

Now, either we all buy prayer mats and face Mecca we had better start realising that Islam is the problem. We were absolutely stupid to allow our enemies to cross our moat and set up bases in our own keeps. At present Muslims are very over represented in serious crime against our people and while living on our welfare system, which appears to me to underline their contempt for us.

There is some stupid idea that Tony Abbott is trying to implement a police state in Australia. This is total loony tunes but it just goes to show how far Muslim apologists will go to dream up fanciful scenarios to support their dreamtime multiculturalism instead of coming to terms with the reality they do not want to see. It equates in total stupidity to the tale recounted by some sporting shooters who claimed that john Howard who used an SAS type to kill 35 people at Port Arthur so that he could disarm the Australian population. Loony tunes.

Australia is now at war with a terrorist organisation which has it's declared intention to destroy the western world and put in it's place a religious dictatorship. I find it amazing that tiose who consider themselves the children of Voltaire and Thomas Paine are lining up with the terrosits and making excuses for them, while simultaneously denouncing as a police state their own democratically elected secular government that has declared it will fight the terrorists.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 7:05:46 AM
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Hi LEGO,

Yes, the war against ISIS terrorists has to be fought on (at least) three fronts -

* militarily, by the US and the coalition, with countries in the Middle East 'persuaded' to play much larger roles than they currently do;

* ideologically, in two ways -

** within Islam, between those (usually termed 'moderate' Muslims) who try to live by and promote the pre-Medina verses of the Koran (when Muhammad was militarily weak), and those supporting terrorism one way or another who use the post-Medina verses to justify butchery and the extermination of non-Muslims and non-the-right-sort-of-Muslims (when Muhammad was militarily dominant);

and

** ultimately, between the range of 'Western' or post-Enlightenment values, including socialism, and the core values of the Koran.

Yes, this is going to be a very long struggle, perhaps throughout this century. Very depressing.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:55:26 AM
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A few well aimed thermo nuclear weapons would considerably shorten the war I do think. That and the mass deportation of the existing migrants from countries who hold that barbaric so called 'religion' so dear. At least once a week I use a paper torn from the koran for its own truly useful purpose. Wiping my bottom. I hope that offends any raghead reading this.
Posted by Cody, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 11:20:05 AM
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