Hi Has old mate, your points are well made, particularly regarding China.
Here is the example we could all possibly learn from?
How to massively improve your economy/lift millions out of poverty, while seriously reducing the population numbers.
And Grim is completely right, [not all that unusual], about the only successful way to reduce population numbers.
Overpopulation is largely a problem for the poorest communities, where women have traditionally been treated as mere bagatelle, able to be traded for a couple of cows, and or, what have you.
With the worst example being prepubescent girls forced into arranged marriages, usually with fully developed males?
And in keeping with the wish list of those thicker than fence posts, advocating population reduction here; a number of those little girls are so damaged internally by this reported tradition, that they can never ever have babies.
And when and if they do, a huge numbers die in childbirth.
I'm not sure about you, but I find it passing strange how a conversation about the language of the extreme, morphed into a conversation about population reduction targets?
But when you read some of these anti population, anti-development, pro poverty posts, (always someone else's sacrifice incidentally) perhaps they do represent the language of the extreme; or the green hidden agenda?
One and the same?
Cheers Rhrosty.

Five actual quotes and the rest what? Verbals?
And given that is so? Hardly surprising and crafted for the sole purpose of mounting a completely fallacious (pro green anti-nuke etc) argument!?
And argument that is specifically designed to bag or seriously misrepresent the views of the verbalized! (Character assassination!)
And disingenuous in the extreme, as are those folks, doing all the verbalizing/misrepresentation/propaganda promulgation!
I can remember reading somewhere; tell a lie so big and outrageous, nobody will be able to believe anyone could tell such a big porky; and therefore treat it as truth?
Ditto extremely disingenuous verbalizing!
Rhrosty.

Well, the anti-human brigade sure are out in force today, aren't they?

Amazing that such people, openly dreaming of genocide, should infect modern-day Australia. Fancy unself-consciously and publicly admiring the fruits of the labours of Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Mengistu, Hitler! Unbelievable.

Their favourite way of thinking is the Gods-eye view: human beings as just bacteria on a petri dish owned by ... you guessed it: government. And what are "we" [translation: the State] going to do about it (all the while consuming - at above-average rate - all the fruits of production that they're whining about)?. Of course their solution: total government power for ten thousand programs to ban anything and everything, and of course "education" [translation: compulsory government indoctrination of children].

What a plague of nasty creeps. How appalling, and how frightening to know that this dark ages hypocritical anti-human ideology should be riddled through two out of three of the major political parties in Australia!

And then there's that old left-wing coincidence thing, isn't there?

Guys - do the world a favour and practice what you preach will ya?

"In the groves of *their* academy, at the end of every vista, you see nothing but the gallows."
Edmund Burke

Oh thank the the Lord, Peter Wing Ah Jardine Lo Fat has raised his gaze from under the bed to rescue us.
How lucky we are to have the Global Financial Military Industrial Complex, to save us from the Evil that is Democratically elected Government.

Your gripe is precisely that democratic government isn't killing enough people, remember Grim

Please show where and when I have advocated killing people Peter Ah fat?