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The language of the extreme : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 9/9/2014

Every now and then you pick up someone saying something so extreme that you wonder what on earth got into them.

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And the purpose of this is?
1. Light a fire
2. Pour petrol on fire
3. Fan gently, in an effort to put the fire out.
It will be interesting to note how many people bother to read this post all the way through.
Posted by Grim, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 8:50:06 AM
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What an odd article Don!

20 ‘quotes’, of which you later admit only 5 are accurate, ie: actual quotes!

No context. No realisation that this sort of ‘quote’ is indeed a very ‘now and then’ occurrence, in amongst thousands of other possible quotes from all of these people which would not be seen as extreme or radical.

and…

NOT ONE of these ‘quotes’ is radical to the extent of being devoid of logical thought or having at least some element of sense to it. You can see the reasoning, and at least some logic and positivity, in every one of them. And if you were to put each of these ‘quotes’ into context, and understand the exact intended meanings, you would find that they do indeed ALL make sense.

You conclude:

< First, there is very little about climate science, global warming or saving the environment. Climate change appears to be an instrument to other ends. >

Yes, within those brief isolated quotes. But then, you wouldn’t have pulled them out as being extreme if they had had, would you!

Each one of those people has no doubt made a very good case for their opinions in and around the isolated statements that you have highlighted.

< Second, there is a lot of hidden anger there about human beings, and again, not obviously because those expressing these notions are desperate to save other species. >

No! There is a lot of realisation that humans have become so far out of balance with the rest of life on earth that we would need to do some pretty forthright things to bring it all back into any semblance of balance.

The really radical quotes are from those who say things along the lines of us not being overpopulated and being able to carry on growing ad-infinitum… and that climate change is completely not happening or is completely non-anthropogenic.

But not you Don nor the vast majority of people would think of statements like that as being at all extreme. Am I right?
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 9:19:56 AM
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Generally speaking there is nothing at all extreme about these "quotes".
We, Homo Sapiens, another animal species, have managed by virtue of our ability to think, reason and be greedy,have managed to out breed other animal species so that we now are out of control as a population.
We do NOT own this planet. We share it with all other animal species. Each of whom/which have as much right as we to exist here.
We are certainly different but we are not "better" than these other animal species.
It could be argued that we are worse than other animal species as we are the only species wantonly destroying our own, and their, environment for our own selfish benefit.
So a general reduction in human population to a much lower number would benefit ALL animal species.
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 9:33:25 AM
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Ludwig and Ateday, you are both right on the money. Don Aitken should back into his cloistered world and stay there.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 10:23:30 AM
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Ludwig, Ateday and VK3AUU.

Please put your money where your mouth is and euthanize yourselves, for the betterment of the planet of course.

Or should someone else be made to sacrifice themselves for your benefit?

Eugenics was discredited at the end of WW2, dressing it up in green clothing does not make it right.

Why not rail at our overcompensation lifestyle.
McMansions, SUV's, out of season food from the other side of the world, there are plenty of was to live a more ecologically friendly way, then saying kill everyone but a select few.
Posted by AdrianM, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 10:47:11 AM
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Ah Adrian.
There is always one of you about isn`t there?
So we just keep breeding do we?
How many children do you have as a matter of interest?
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 11:04:12 AM
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