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A cultural complicity in violence against women : Comments

By Tasman Bain, published 2/9/2014

Violence against women is both enabled and perpetuated by a culture that maintains a spectrum of sexism and misogyny, from the subtle and casual to the violent and extreme.

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Those who resort to violence as their first and or only reaction, will always argue for a case that allows them to continue with that very antisocial/criminal behavior!
And where that behavior is the every day ritual.
Kids growing up will consider it normalcy!
And grow up being bigger and badder bar stewards, than those who inculcated that belief!
And where are all those female sexual predators? I have a top position for one around here. [Here pussy pussy, came and get your sausage.]
To those who can't adjust to a culture, that sees more than sex slaves or mere bagatelle in our womanhood, feel free to return to those ultra primitive locations, where that belief is normal!
We don't want it, nor the patently primitive people or the attitudes that breathe oxygen into it?
Nor is the usual hate-filled anti male, pushy feminist advocates helping!
You'll know who they are, when one follows you into a revolving door and comes out first!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 4:48:29 PM
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yvonne, I unfortunately did hit back in one argument. Two fairly light slaps after being punched yet again and following numerous argument where my then spouse had punched me and blatantly taunted me with her protected status. I've also been in the situation where marriage counsellors have claimed that her violence did not matter, she was smaller and unlikely to do real harm. I could not find any means accessible to me to stop being hit.

My choice to hit back is something I greatly regret and it didn't stop the violence. That in part is one of the drivers for my determination to try and break the refusal to genuinely say no to all violence, not just the violence by men. I've been in the situation of not being able to get any support in stopping violence against me and I have some idea of what happened to me when pushed and pushed with no accessible support.

Despite the millions spent by government on anti DV messages I've yet to see a single one addressing DV by women against men. There is still somewhat of a popular view that men who get assaulted by women deserve it, that they should sort it out for themselves. Cops still appear to be trained to treat the male as the aggressor unless the evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. The push to portray DV as an entirely gendered issue is still very strong, hence a need to continue to point out that DV is about a lot of issues and gender is not really one of them.

I don't think the research is clear on just what verbal and emotional abuse is occurring but it is clear that when the same measures are applied to men and women that women initiate at least as much (if not more) physical violence against male partners than visa versa. Even if that was not the case it does not justify the complete refusal to address any form of physical violence initiated by women against male partners which is the line being promoted too many.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 5:07:02 PM
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As to why men don't leave.

First and foremost to me was a misplaced determination to try and stick to my wedding vows. Secondly but I didn't really understand just how bad it would be then was concern about bias in the family law system. Any man with kids and an unethical spouse looking to leave is a risk of losing most of what is valued. Access to children, reputation, assets they have worked towards and future financial stability are all at serious risk and when you are in the situation it's very hard to work out where leaving will lead to.

A woman who leaves a bad marriage has a good chance of keeping the kids and most of the financial assets of the family and be supported in fleeing an abusive relationship. The man who leaves has a strong chance that none of the above will apply.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 5:09:32 PM
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Why should he leave Yvonne. In most instances he has put up most of the money for the house, furniture, & the kids as well. If anyone should leave, it is her.

At least in the old days the little lady had the decency to recognise this, & go home, crying, to mother. Just when did these females lose their dignity, & how did we men ever let some feminist blokes take control of the family court?

From what I see around the place, once many women have had the use of the fool blokes sperm, he is past his usefulness. He can piss off, leave the house for her, & just send money.

She'd rather have some other blokes sperm for the next one anyway, & that is easier if he is gone, unless he is a real dill.

The amazing thing is that so few blokes respond to the extreme provocation with violence. It highlights that we are really the calm gentle sex, despite all the feminist propaganda to the contrary.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 5:18:06 PM
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The author uses a technique known as inflammatory analogies. The aim is to hook the emotions there by bypassing the logical and rational thinking processes of the brain.

He starts off talking about the fate of women in many extremely violent countries, that do not have the same cultural attitudes to violence, as our country does.

Incredibly he ignores the fate of many unarmed males who are currently being murdered by muslim extremists. Then there were the innocent males in Serbia who were slaughtered.

In many countries around at the world it doesn't matter if you are male or female, human life does not mean very much at all.

The real issue is not about violence against women. The real issue is violence against any human being. regardless of gender.
Posted by Wolly B, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 6:02:04 PM
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Tension between males and females is only
one aspect of conflict in the family.
Research studies over the past two decades has
revealed an astonishing amount of family violence -
between spouses, between parents and offspring, and
among the offspring themselves.

Police detest "disturbance calls" - usually family
fights - because of the vicious and dangerous
nature of so many of these conflicts. Wives assault
their husbands as often as husbands assault their
wives, and spouses are equally likely to kill each
other. Although wives are rarely a match for their
husbands in a fistfight, they are more likely to use
lethal weapons (notably kitchen knives).

Each year, too, children attack a brother or a sister,
and parents kick, punch, bite or batter their kids.

Child abuse - involving such acts as burning children with
cigarettes, locking them up in closets, tying them up for
hours or days, or breaking their bones - is alarmingly
common and probably causes many runaways that happen each
year.

Then we have the sexual abuse of children - now recognised
as a national epidemic.

In any event, the extent of violence in groups whose
members are supposed to love and care for one another is
not easily explained and suggests that the modern family
may sometimes be under greater pressure than it can easily bear.

If we are going to look at the cultural complicity and
causes of violence - it needs to be broadened out to
include all forms of violence and abuse - not just
against women.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 6:29:51 PM
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